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Fernando Lida Garcia vs Yury Markovich Shulman
Torneo Continental Americano (2003), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 2, Aug-18
Nimzo-Larsen Attack: Modern Variation (A01)  ·  0-1



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Dec-22-11  Whitehat1963: Thursday puzzle after 14. d4.
Dec-22-11  master of defence: Wow. Wonderful game. If 17. Qxc3 Rd1# or 17. fxe3 Qxd2+
Dec-22-11  master of defence: And too, why not 14. Bxg7?
Jun-28-12  zahbaz: Rxe5. Returns the exchange, clears the avenue of attack, and takes the win with Qc3+.

What was white's combative idea with the voluntary exchange loss 12.Rxc6? Is this something thematic? I'm not familiar with these positions.

Jun-28-12  SamAtoms1980: The ideas are very visible, the puzzle is getting the right order:

14....Rxe5 15.dxe5 Qc3+ 16.Qd2 Ne3 wins on the spot, because 17.Qxc3 is followed by 17....Rd1#.

Shulman must have been thrilled to pull off this finish.

Jun-28-12  Funology: Maybe he was looking for some sort of attack with the two bishops pointing at Black's king. Pretty dodgy. Certainly, provocative play against a GM.
Jun-28-12  5hrsolver: Although I missed 16...Ne3 there's nothing wrong with 16...Qa1+ 17.Qd1 Qxd1+ 18.Kxd1 Ne3+ 19.Kc1 Rd1+ 20.Kb2 Nxg2 completely paralyzing white.
Jun-28-12  Abdel Irada: <Developmental disability>

White has a pawn for the exchange, but stands far worse than the material would suggest because of his suicidal lack of development. Black exploits this with 14. ...♖xe5!, whereon White has nothing better than to recapture (or simply be a rook down).

After 15. dxe5, Black continues with 15. ...♕c3+; 16. ♕d2, ♘e3!! and White has to give up his queen with 17. fxe3, ♕xd2+, because the alternative is worse: 17. ♕xc3??, ♖d1#.

Jun-28-12  rilkefan: I saw 16... Qa1+ 17.Qd1 Qxd1+ 18.Kxd1 Ne3+, when white has to play Kc1 and black picks up the bishop with a fatal bind on the kside, and didn't look further.
Jun-28-12  Abdel Irada: Ah. Looking at the game, I think I see the real source of White's problem: He's rated over 400 points lower than his opponent. (If I recall correctly, that means he has a statistical probability of winning approaching zero.) This disparity may explain the desperado play.
Jun-28-12  Whitehat1963: <Abdel Irada>, you might want to take a look at this:

Game Collection: Beat the Elite with Black

Jun-28-12  Abdel Irada: <rilkefan>: I looked at that line, too. After 14. ...♖xe5; 15. dxe5, ♕c3+; 16. ♕d2, ♕a1+?!; 17. ♕d1, ♕xd1+; 18. ♔xd1, ♘e3+; 19. ♔c1, ♘xg2, Black does indeed pick up the bishop.

However, this looks like an example of the old problem with "winning" a fianchettoed bishop with a knight: After 20. ♘f3, it isn't clear that Black can save his steed.

This point isn't entirely academic, nor unique to this game. There are entire variations of the Sicilian Dragon complex, Robatsch/Modern and King's Indian that stand or fall on the question of whether the knight can escape, as I discovered in the course of many opening discussions with Gjon Feinstein.

Jun-28-12  5hrsolver: <Abdel Irada & rilkefan>

19...Rd1+ first followed by Nxg2 solves the steed problem as white will completely tied up.

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  al wazir: My line wasn't as good as Shulman's, but it's good enough to win: 14...Qc3+ 15. Qd2 (15. Kf1? Rxe5 16. dxe5 Ne3+ 16. fxe3 Rxd1+) Qa1+ 16. Qd1 Qxd1+ 17. Kxd1 Rxe5 18. dxe5 Ne3+! 19. Kc1 (forced) Rd1+ 20. Kb2 (forced) Nxg2, with ...Bd5 to follow. Black is up a piece and white's position is constipated.
Jun-28-12  M.Hassan: "medium" Black to play 14...?
Black has a Rook for a Bishop and a pawn.

15.Kf1 Rxe5
16.dxe5 Ne3+
17.fxe3 Rxd1+
And White has to continue without Queen.

Actually, taking the Bishop before the check is more beneficial:

15.dxe5 Qc3+
16.Qd2 Ne3!!
17.Qxc3 Rd1#

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  chrisowen: Bin difficult in easy it reekie one boy old at eta sucker punch in

electric every it each in clink anon too rook in e5 hale it book in

until da nc3 in given off e3 it grind also e4 then big gutful crumbs

in ko it rookc6 going down the pan at on you incedence the point e5

people in hallelujah a vested interest im at e5 it freeing d8 to

barrell i should think qd1 me took it while got c3 check wait qd2

inter-poses meld ne3 king eats up ground to queen drop in tangle d2s a foot in the door 16...ne3

Jun-28-12  rilkefan: <5hrsolver> - yeah, I'm terse to lacuna often - side effect of poetry.

The Poetry (after Li Po)

I found him wandering on the hill
one hot-blue afternoon.
He looked as skinny as a nail,
as pale-skinned as the moon;

below the broad shade of his hat
his face was cut with rain.
Dear God, poor Du Fu, I thought:
Itís the poetry again.

- Don Paterson

Jun-28-12  sevenseaman: Saccing the exchange at e5 (R for the B) clears the d8 R's sight on the White Q. The Black N at d5 later lifts with a royal fork from e3.

And that is all the story, R & N paid as a price for the B and the Q in order to win the game.

Puzzle solved, the rest being only the syntax.

<14...Rxe5 15. dxe5 Qc3+ 16. Kf1▢ (16. Qd2 Ne3 17. Qxc3 Rd1#) Ne3+ 18. fxe3 Rxd1+ 19. Kf2▢ Qe1+ 20. Kf3▢ > 0-1.

A very likely further development;

<20...g5 21. Nh3 (what else, threaten the Q) Bh5+ 22. g4 Bxg4#>

I'd say quite a good one for a Thursday. should tickle the palate of most solvers.

Jun-28-12  scormus: Nice example of the veiled d-file attack, combined with exploiting the deep hole on c3.

<Abdel Irada> makes a good point about the N "winning" the fianchettoed B. In fact if it wasnt for the fact that 16 ... Ne3 is so crushing, 16 ... Qa1+ would be a serious candidate because of the R penetration onto W's back rank, 17 Qd1 Qxd1+ 18 Kxd1 Ne3+ 19 Kc1 Rd1+ 20 Kb2 Nxg2.

Variations which combine these themes are more clearly favourable to the attacker. In some ways a more instructive continuation than the immediately winning game continuation.

Jun-28-12  scormus: <5hrsolver> Right. I see you posted while I was composing mine
Jun-28-12  TheBish: F Lida Garcia vs Y Shulman, 2003

Black to play (14...?) "Medium", Black is up an Exchange for a pawn.

With a huge development lead (six developed pieces, including the king, compared to two for White) as well as the Exchange (both rooks optimally placed in the center), it's only logical that Black should have a way to win -- in this case by giving back the Exchange to open more lines.

14...Rxe5! 15. dxe5

At this point I was looking for a knight move with a discovery on White's queen, but both 15...Ne3 and 15...Nc3 fail to 16. Qxd8+ Kxd8 17. Bxc6. So it's logical (captain), to save the queen first with a tempo.

15...Qc3+ 16. Qd2

Obviously forced, since 16. Kf1 Ne3+ 17. fxe3 Rxd1+ is crushing -- 18. Kf2 Qe1+ 19. Kf3 Bd5+ 20. Kf4 Bxg2, winning everything!

16...Ne3! winning the queen, since if 17. Qxc3 Rd1# is the answer. Also, after 17. Nf3 Rxd2 18. Nxd2 Qc1#, so White would have to settle for 17. fxe3 Qxd2+, winning the queen for a rook.

Jun-28-12  Abdel Irada: <5hrsolver>: Excellent finesse.

Yes, checking with the rook first is a far better line, in which extricating the knight is no longer a problem -- for Black. It is White whose knight cannot now be brought into play save at the cost of his remaining rook.

<Whitehat1963>: I enjoyed your collection, although in fairness it must be noted that the GM victims were mostly playing simuls, which does somewhat mitigate their losses.

Strangely, most of my upsets (e.g., versus Elliott Winslow with the Traxler and versus Renard Anderson with the Marshall Attack) have also been with Black. I wonder if anyone else has also observed this seeming paradox.

Jun-28-12  TheBish: As I was solving from the diagram (per usual), I missed that after 17. Nf3 Qa1+! mates next move.
Jun-28-12  TheBish: <Abdel Irada: Strangely, most of my upsets... have also been with Black.>

Yes, I have experienced the same thing! I have at least three memorable wins with White against NMs (when I was between "B" and Expert level) -- but my biggest upset was a win with Black against GM Khachian (when he was still IM, but shortly before getting the GM title). And, believe it or not, I had a won game (playing a King's Indian with Black) against IM Igor Ivanov many moons ago, at a Master-Expert tournament in San Jose, CA... which I proceeded to blunder away on move 41, when there was no time pressure! (Two pawns up in the endgame, but a blunder allowed him a passed pawn which was going to queen.)

Jun-28-12  Patriot: I "think" the answer is 14...Rxe5.

15.dxe5 Qc3+ 16.Qd2 Qxd2+ (16.Kf1 Ne3+ ) 17.Kxd2 Nf4+ 18.Ke1 Nxg2+ 19.Kf1 Bd5

Now 20.Nf3 or 20.e4 seem to be the only options.

What if I change the move order?

<14...Qc3+ 15.Qd2 Rxe5> (15.Kf1 Rxe5 16.Bxd5 Rexd5 (16.dxe5 Nf3+ ))

Now if 16.Qxc3 Nxc3, then 17.dxe5 Rd1# so that wins a piece.

If 16.Bxd5 (removal of the guard) Qxd2+ 17.Kxd2 Rxd5 again wins a piece.

So now it seems <14...Qc3+> wins.

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