Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Jose Gonzalez Garcia vs Gustavo Mahia
Torneo Continental Americano (2003), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 7, Aug-25
Sicilian Defense: Kan. Knight Variation (B43)  ·  1-0



explore this opening
find similar games 178 more games of J Gonzalez Garcia
sac: 47.Rg8+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Some games have annotation. These are denoted in the game list with the icon.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Aug-09-05  Drifter: hmmm, hardly a puzzle really. im only a 1600 player and i found it straight away. reckon i would easily find it in an OTB lighting game immediately also.
Aug-09-05  Nick816: This wasn't much of a challenge because Rg8+ was pretty easy to see if you know the knight fork pattern..
Aug-09-05  zb2cr: Surprisingly easy puzzle for a Tuesday. Oddly, I saw it within seconds...usually, I have to think longer on Tuesday.

On Mondays and Tuesdays, I feel like an intelligent chess player.

By Fridays, reality has set in. :(

Aug-09-05  YouRang: Pretty easy since there weren't many choices. Normally, winning a pawn wouldn't be the solution to a "play and win" puzzle, but in this case, its capture creates two passed pawns. Black can't stop them and protect his other pawns at the same time.
Aug-09-05  alexandrovm: 47. Rg8 seems preaty. If black takes, white grabs a pawn with a nice fork with 48. Nxf6+. If black doesn't take, the only possible move would be Kh6. But then, white can break with g4-g5. Yeah, it seems a nice blow, Rg8, for white
Aug-09-05  gprice: 47.... Kh6 48. Rg6+ Kh7 49.Nf6+ Kh8 50.Rg8#
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Another easy one:white lends black his rook only to regain it with a pawn intrest-not Jaws rates-but will do...
Aug-09-05  GoldenKnight: Got this one immediately. A point from one of my endgame books: "Pawn and Knight endings are Pawn endings." So, unless you have some special position, the pawn up, two passed and connected with King at hand, wins.
Aug-09-05  sharpnova: <alexandrovm> why would white play a stupid pawn move like that? Rg6+ wins the rook for completely free.
Aug-09-05  YouRang: <sharpnova: <alexandrovm> why would white play a stupid pawn move like that? Rg6+ wins the rook for completely free.> True. Or better yet, as gprice pointed out, black gets mated.
Premium Chessgames Member
  BishopofBlunder: I had a really bad week in chess last week. I kept getting crushed by a patzer personality in Chessmaster. It doesn't look like this week is going to be any better. I have missed both Monday's and Tuesday's puzzle. I am beginning to feel like Wile E. Coyote, standing on a precipice overlooking a deep chasm and hearing the rock holding the ledge I'm on start to break away...
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <GoldenKnight: ... A point from one of my endgame books: "Pawn and Knight endings are Pawn endings."> Botvinnik is credited as being the original source of this one.
Aug-09-05  morphy234: i got this one, easy!! woo hoo
Aug-09-05  GoldenKnight: Thanks <Gypsy>! I think I may remember my source making that point. Anyway I'll run across it again sometime, then I'll know for sure.
Aug-09-05  Shokwave: Easy 'n quick. Win a pawn, create two connected passers, collect the win.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <GoldenKnight> You are welcome. Botvinnik theorem is actually very useful. It is rare for something this succint, and this general, to be so helpful.
Aug-09-05  sharpnova: i had this problem solved 3 nanoseconds after the big bang.
Aug-09-05  Rama: There's nothing wrong with 47 Nc5 Re7, 48 Ne6+ Kh6, (... Kh7?, Nf8+ winning rook) 49 Rg8 ... threatening Rg6 mate, forcing 48 ... Rxe6, 49 fxe6 with a won ending.
Aug-09-05  notyetagm: The White e4-knight has a <forking square> on f6, from which it attacks the undefended, more valuable Black d7-rook. The Black king on g7 is the only Black piece which defends this forking square. The Black king, therefore, cannot also defend the <target square> g8 of the f6-forking square, since that would <overwork> him. So the g8-square is undefended and White takes it with his rook by playing 47 ♖g8+!.

Now Black has a problem. If he takes the White rook there follows 47 ... ♔xg8 48 ♘xf6+ ♔g7 49 ♘xd7 and White has won the critical Black f6-pawn, leaving him with connected passed f- and g- pawns in a knight ending, an easy win. If he does not take the White g8-rook, then he is mated:

47 ... ♔h7 48 ♘f6+ ♔h6 49 ♖g6#, an <Arabian mate> on the edge of the board (Nf6-Rg6-Kh6)

47 ... ♔h6 48 ♖g6+ ♔h7 49 ♘f6+ ♔h8 50 ♖g8#, an <Arabian mate> in the corner (Nf6-Rg8/h7-Kh8)

Aug-09-05  YouRang: <Rama: There's nothing wrong with 47 Nc5 Re7, 48 Ne6+ Kh6, (... Kh7?, Nf8+ winning rook) 49 Rg8 ... threatening Rg6 mate, forcing 48 ... Rxe6, 49 fxe6 with a won ending. > What if 47. Nc5 is answered by 47... Nd6?
Aug-09-05  alexandrovm: <sharpnova:<alexandrovm> why would white play a stupid pawn move like that?> true :) But you don't need to be so rude. <gprice> Thanks :)
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Welcome-Nick816-I notice this was your first post.
Premium Chessgames Member
  cu8sfan: <prinsallan> Sorry but shortly after my post yesterday I didn't have time to check in again. Maybe we should play out the setup on another site. I actually think that White will win but that it's not as easy as you made it seem.
Aug-10-05  prinsallan: <cu8sfan>I never said it would be easy actually... I just stated that stopping two connected passed pawns with no advantage in other material is very difficult. Since we appear to agree anyway I feel the matter is settled. At least more or less :P
Aug-12-05  patzer2: White's 47. Rg8+! sets up a knight fork to simplify to a won endgame.

search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.

NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
47. Rg8+!
from Knight Forks by patzer2
47.? (Tuesday, August 9)
from Puzzle of the Day 2005 by Phony Benoni
47.? (Tuesday, August 9)
from POTD Sicilian Defense 1 by takchess
47.? (August 9, 2005)
from Tuesday Puzzles, 2004-2010 by Phony Benoni
good idea
by hartkoka

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC