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| Jun-02-11 | | lemonadepawn: You're right, shatranj7. After 27. Bxg7! follows 27...Kxg7 28. Rh3+ Kf6 29. Qg5# |
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| Jun-24-11 | | Tigranny: lemonadepawn, do you mean 28.Rg3+ (28.Rh3+ results in 28...Bxh3)? |
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| Jun-24-11 | | DrMAL: 18...Nc6 back looks suspicious and a great tactical shot was missed. After 19.Rxe6 fxe6 20.Qc2 black is in big trouble. 20...h6 would be met by 21.Bc4 Bf6 22.Bxh6! and white has a winning attack. Checking with Rybka 4.1 reveals black's best as the (unlikely) counter-sac 20...Rxf3 which would be met by 21.Bxh7+ Kf8 22.gxf3 (Bf6 23.Bg6 Rd8 24.Bh5 Qd5 25.Qg6) with white up a bishop and pawn for knight and much better position. In terms of which Polgar was/is the best, the answer is clearly Laszlo for teaching and encouraging his daughters (his book of 5334 puzzles that they trained with is awesome too). |
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| Jun-25-11 | | DrMAL: Judit played this game brilliantly but she did miss an earlier winning opportunity and actually should have drawn. The sac 19.Rxe6 looked great to me but I checked it with Rybka 4.1 very deeply to make sure. After 19.Rxe6 fxe6 20.Qc2 Rybka gives the following lines: [+1.52] d=24 20...Rxf3 21.Bxh7+ Kf8 22.gxf3 Bf6 23.Bg6 Rd8 24.Bh5 Ne7 25.Bg4 Nf5 26.Qe4 c5 27.dxc5 Qxc5 28.Qxe6 Nh4 29.Bf4 Qd5 30.Qe4 g5 31.Bg3 Qxe4 32.fxe4 Rd3 33.Rc1 Ng6 34.Bb8 Ne5 35.Be2 Rd2 (3:03:47) 1133595kN [+1.87] d=24 20...h6 21.Bc4 Bf6 22.Bxh6 Qd7 23.Bf4 Na5 24.Ba2 Qf7 25.Bg3 Nb7 26.Ne5 Bxe5 27.Rxe5 Nd6 28.Qe2 Qg6 29.Bxe6+ Nf7 30.Re4 Re7 31.d5 Kh8 (5:36:13) 2158079kN 20...h6 is the much more likely response. Looking more carefully at it, after 21.Bc4 Bf6 22.Bxh6 Rybka evaluates two slightly stronger replies for black: [+1.91] d=21 22...Rf7 23.Ng5 Bxg5 24.Bxg5 Na5 25.Bd3 e5 26.Bh7+ Kf8 27.Bg6 e4 28.Rxe4 Qc6 29.Rxe8+ Qxe8 30.Qd1 Qe6 31.Bxf7 Kxf7 32.a4 Nc4 33.h3 c6 34.Qf3+ Kg8 35.Qg3 Qe1+ 36.Kh2 Qe8 (1:33:45) 629248kN [+2.03] d=21 22...b5 23.Ba2 Qd7 24.Bc1 Qf7 25.Qe2 Nd8 26.Qxb5 c6 27.Qd3 Qh5 28.Ne5 Bh4 29.Be3 Bf6 30.Bb1 Bxe5 31.dxe5 Nf7 32.f4 (1:41:21) 678059kN I'm quite proud of having spotted this earlier sac, particularly since even Rybka 4.1 chooses 19.R5e3 as best at considerable depth: [+0.93] d=19 19.R5e3 Nd8 20.Ne5 Bf6 21.f4 g6 22.f5 Bd5 23.Qg4 Re7 24.Bb2 Bb7 25.Nc4 (0:09:52) 60097kN In the game, both sides played very well and after 24.Re3 Rybka 4.1 evaluates the position as a likely draw: [+0.52] d=21 24...g6 25.Bf1 Qc5 26.d6 c6 27.Bf6 Rxe3 28.Rxe3 Qd5 29.Qa4 Re8 30.Be7 Be6 31.h3 Qc5 32.Qf4 Rxe7 33.dxe7 Qxe7 34.Qb8+ Kg7 35.Qe5+ Kg8 36.Rd3 f6 37.Qb8+ (0:12:21) 87073kN But then Karpov made a huge blunder 24...Qc5 to give white a quick forced mate. BTW there is a fabulous article on the Polgars at http://www.psychologytoday.com/arti... |
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| Jul-02-11 | | DrMAL: Surprised this game has not received more attention. Polgar, the best woman player at the time a possible WC contender, misses a win against Karpov and the game is almost surely a draw...until Karpov blunders into a quick forced mate! |
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| Jul-12-11 | | qqdos: <DrMAL> I like your exchange sac. 19.Rxe6, which instinctively feels right and since you have put it through the "mincer" I am sure White can keep the upper hand. If it was Tal or Petrosian playing such a move, out of the blue, Black would probably have a fit?! If Black was (one of those Soviet toughies like) Korchnoi, Geller or Karpov, I equally feel they could give Judit a hard time as there are some pitfalls on the way. 18...Nc6 was a mistake - better ...g6. Finally I have reservations about the Polgar upbringing - constant pressure on prodigies to succeed at all costs may produce unforeseen, possibly harrowing, consequences. |
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| Jul-14-11 | | DrMAL: <qqdos> Thanx for your feedback about the sac good to have some reassurance I was not being completely nuts (can't trust computers for that either LOL). Thing is, this WAS Karpov playing black...maybe he would have gone for the counter-sac option but it did not appear to be in his style. Yes, I agree about the Polgars I would not have wanted to have such an upbringing myself, old Laslo appears to have been a wee bit bonkers on his idea of "bringing up genius" but in talking with Susan on it, she said she thought her childhood was grand. Whatever! Cheers. |
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| Sep-11-11 | | renrod001: Highly unexpected play by Karpov. I would have resigned
too as I saw
27. Bxg7 Kxg7
28. Rg3+ Kf6
29. Qg5# |
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| May-03-12 | | BlackSheep: As has been mentioned over the years here I found the nifty Rb5-e5-e2 saving tempi while black repeats moves wasting his to be the most interesting point of the game, and it is very surprising to see Karpov fall for such tricks he generally smells danger from a mile away . |
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| Dec-23-12 | | leka: The last tournament in London in 2012 Judith Polgar played too aggressevely with the black piecies against Kramnik and Adams.Judith sacfriced both games her piecies. |
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| Oct-04-13 | | rccomputacion: yo que soy muy neofito veo claramente que karpov cometio un error grosero al no ver una jugada tan infantil, de las primeras que te enseÑan cuando das los primeros pasos en ajedrez... e3to demuestra que son humanos no maquinas. |
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| Jan-09-15 | | SeanAzarin: Karpov was already past 50 years of age when this game was played. He may have been past his peak (although as recently as 5 years before this game he was FIDE Champion.) Having said that, he was still a formidable player. Very impressive win by J. Polgar. |
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Jan-09-15
 | | HeMateMe: This doesn't look like the Karpov of 1975-85. Could this have been a 30 minute game? It's not even up to snuff for Karpov in his 40s. |
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| Jan-09-15 | | Infohunter: Quite a distinction it is to have won against Karpov by means of a Double Bishop Sacrifice, even if he was past his prime. |
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| Jan-09-15 | | iking: <DrMAL: Surprised this game has not received more attention. Polgar, the best woman player at the time a possible WC contender, misses a win against Karpov and the game is almost surely a draw...until Karpov blunders into a quick forced mate!> .. now's the time! |
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| Jan-09-15 | | Pballa: <27. Bxg7 Kxg7
28. Rg3+ Kf6
29. Qg5#>
The other line:
27. Bxg7 f5 (or f6)
28. Qg6 with mate to follow via Bf6 |
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| Jan-09-15 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: 17 ... Na5 looks like the fiasco move to me. 17 ... f6, for example, looks like it would have really slowed down White's attack. |
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| Jan-09-15 | | karban: Nice pun |
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Jan-09-15
 | | kevin86: Mate will folow soon, to the expense of Mr. Karpov. |
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| Dec-07-18 | | Spassfish: Is she married? Nothing like getting mated by a brilliant woman. My hat is off to her. Her world is not an easy place for the tender gender. Brilliant game. Her perseverance is truly remarkable & admirable.A role model for my daughters. |
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Dec-07-18
 | | moronovich: <Spassfish: Is she married?> Yes,she is. |
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| Mar-05-19 | | Margetic D: Really a powerful play by Judit. I m indeed very sorry that this lady is not active. In this game, i adore her positional - tactics switch. I miss her games and her presence in the actively playing chess world. She is not only extremly strong player, but also a huge person. But back to the game : 24...g6 looks much better than the game move, but if you look the position , you can see white is definitely better (Judits Rooks and two bishops and the attack on the king s side). 25. h4, and now the game is not forced so black could try several moves, but none gives him a good life. I would say 25...f6 or Qc5. 25.... f6, 26.Bf4 (i have a feeling this could even be better than 26.Bxc7) 26....Rxe3,27.Rxe3,Qa4, 28.Qxa4, Bxa4, 29.Bxc7 , other way would be 27....Qc5, 28.d6 (to get to e7 with the rook), cxd6, 29. Re7, Rf7, 30.Qe2, Qh5,31.Rxd7, Qxe2, 32.Rd8+. Rf8, 33.Rxf8+. Kxf8. 34.Bxe2,Ke7, 35. Kf1,Nb3, 36.Bc4 Nc5, 37.Bg8 |
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| Jul-22-19 | | gambitfan: joli mat final ultra classique |
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Nov-09-21
 | | plang: 13..Qd6?! was a new move preventing Bf4 but it has not been repeated; 13..Bf5 is the main line. Polgar thought that 16..Rfe8 would have been more accurate. With 17..Na5? Black underestimated White's kingside attacking chances; 17..a6 was suggested as an alternative. White would have had a winning attack after 18..Bf6 19 Ng5!..Bxg5 20 Bxg5..Nc6 21 Qh5..h6 (21..g6 22 Bf6) 22 Bxh6..Nxe5 23 Bxg7..Ng6 24 Be5..Bg4 25 Qxg4..Rxe5 26 Rxe5. 24..Qc5? was a blunder; 24..g6 looks shaky but would have avoided immediate defeat. Instead, Polgar recommended 24..Rxe5 25 Rxe5..Nb7 though after I.Sokolov's suggestion of 26 d6! White is still much better after 26..cxd (26..Nxd6 27 Re7 or 26..Qxd6? 27 Rd5!) 27 R5e3. |
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| Nov-09-21 | | awfulhangover: Really a mystery how a player like Karpov could play 24.-Qc5??
Everything in white´s position is lined up for a classic brute force attack on black´s king, and even patzers like me would have felt the danger. |
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