| Dec-19-03 | | patzer2: Peter Leko scores a nice win with the old Sicilian Lasker-Pelikan, which is enjoying something of a resurgance with players like himself and Radjabov employing it lately with mixed results. Leko demonstrates this Sicilian line can quickly turn into a double-edged tactical melee, taking down even a super tactician like Shirov. |
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| Dec-19-03 | | Kenkaku: Actually, this is the Sicilian Sveshnikov. It seems to really be coming into its own in the upper echelon of chess. |
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| Dec-19-03 | | patzer2: <Kenkaku> Glad you've noticed the Super GM interest in this opening sequence, regardless of the name we use (can't really get enthused about calling it B33). Bastsford Chess Openings (Kasparov and Keene) name the first five moves of this sequence the Lasker-Pelikan variation of the Sicilian. I was aware Svesnikov played the lined in the 1970's, but was unaware he was also credited with having the opening named for him. The earliest (B33) game by him I can find shows Sveshnikov playing this line in Karpov vs Sveshnikov, 1973 However, Lasker seems to have beat him to the punch in Schlechter vs Lasker, 1910 Maybe the old U.S.S.R Chess Federation renamed the opening, much like they inisisted on calling the "Benko" the "Volga" gambit, as they had difficulty giving credit for any invention other than from one of their own. |
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| Dec-20-03 | | shadowmaster: <Sveshnikov, Pelikan> Perhaps an exerpt from this review of a book devoted to the Sveshnikov can shed some light on this <The Sveshnikov <Grandmaster Sveshnikov himself called it The Sicilian Pelikan back in 1989.> When we take into account that 1.e4 c5 2.c3, The Alapin Variation, is also called the Sveshnikov by some sources, it’s easy to see that confusion can rule the day!) Sicilian (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5) has long been a favorite of players who aren’t afraid to create a suspect pawn structure in return for active pieces.> from: http://www.jeremysilman.com/book_re... Or I just might be adding to the confusion :-) |
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| Dec-20-03 | | patzer2: <Shadowmaster> Thanks for the enlightenment on the Sveshnikov or Pelikan or Lasker-Pelikan or B33 (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5). Despite the confusing nomenclature, the line is highly playable and double-edged for both sides. Maybe this is the modern way to take an opening risk, sacrificing a little pawn structure weakeness for active pieces -- instead of giving up actual material (i.e. gambit). |
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| Dec-20-03 | | Rama: Leko's Queen maneuvers starting with Qe8 are very fine. He tacks from wing to wing and gets Shirov off-balance, winning key material. H5 is one of those quiet pawn moves for which there is no defense. I also admired his repeated pushes of the f-pawn, f6-f5-f4. Gutsy. |
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| Dec-20-03 | | PinkPanther: <Peter Leko scores a nice win with the old Sicilian Lasker-Pelikan, which is enjoying something of a resurgance with players like himself and Radjabov employing it lately with mixed results.
Leko demonstrates this Sicilian line can quickly turn into a double-edged tactical melee, taking down even a super tactician like Shirov.> The resurgence of this opening actually comes from Vladimir Kramnik. |
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| Dec-20-03 | | patzer2: <PinkPanther> Kramnik has indeed been active in playing both sides of this opening. His victory with the White pieces was impressive in Kramnik vs Radjabov, 2003 With the Black pieces he has learned from his losses as in Shirov vs Kramnik, 2003 and Anand vs Kramnik, 2003 and Leko vs Kramnik, 2000 and Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 Lately, he seems to have used it as a drawing weapon as Black as in Leko vs Kramnik, 2003 and Anand vs Kramnik, 2003 and Judit Polgar vs Kramnik, 2003 |
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| Dec-20-03 | | PinkPanther: It makes no sense to call that Polgar-Kramnik a game where he used the opening as a "drawing weapon". Sure, the game was drawn but not because of the opening, it's not like they played 20 moves and decided to call it a day.....but that's just my two cents. |
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| Dec-21-03 | | patzer2: <PinkPanther> You are correct in noting the Polgar-Kramnik game is a hard fought draw. However, when I used the term "drawing weapon" I meant that Kramnik attempts to play safe and sound moves in this opening without taking unnecessary risks, being content to draw against fellow Super GM opponents with the black pieces. This approach could result in a boring "grandmaster draw" where they play about 20 safe moves and shake hands, or it could result in a hard fought draw where the opponent fighting for a win must make risky moves and create unclear positions against the player who is content with the draw. |
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| Oct-21-07 | | srinivas6195: the queen from move number 29 to 33 moved in the shape of C |
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