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Dec-24-04
 | | tamar: <iron maiden,paulalbert> Here is the Pillsbury note based on Lasker's after game comments. Lasker saw the possibility of activating his pawn majority based on attacking the knight when it was forced to b3 and he just mixed up the move order allowing the knight sack on c3. 41...Kd3
<Black throws away the game, which seems to be won by 41...c2 42 g5 Bxg5 43 Kxg5 Kd3 44 Nc1+ Kd2 45 Nb3+ Kd1 46 Kf5 a5 47 a4 48 axb5 a4 49 b6 (or 49 Nc1 Kxc1 50 b6 a3 and Black should win) 49...axb3 50 b7 b2 b8Q 51 c1Q and should win. In both variations the pawn on the seventh can be forced to queen shortly.> |
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Dec-24-04
 | | paulalbert: Thanks, tamar. I see you are a studier of the great historic tournaments as am I to a certain extent. Own a lot of the tournament books. Paul Albert |
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Dec-24-04
| | tamar: <paulalbert> We have several people on site who have considerable libraries. Most of my books are back in CA (no, not in a Bekins storage building in So Pasadena!) I have only recently acquired the Hastings 1895 book. <Von Krolock> mentions another I would like to see Vienna 1908. Which ones do you have? |
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| Dec-24-04 | | iron maiden: <tamar> If you own the Hastings 1895 tournament book, then you are, to put it mildly, extremely lucky. Where did you find it? |
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Dec-24-04
| | tamar: <iron maiden> I saw it available on the internet and snapped it up. Can't remember where though. Well worth it, although the annotations are of varying quality. It conveys the tenseness and the change of fortune of Lasker, Pillsbury and Chigorin during the marathon event. It seemed to catch fire in the 14th round.
Here is the intro to the 14th round:
<Aug 23. There are two great features of this day- the notably increased attendance, and the large number of sacrificed pieces , which seem to be flying about in reckless profusion. Pillsbury defending an Evans Gambit is the first to win, avoiding one of Bird's neat little traps...> I also have (in CA) Santa Monica 1966, San Antonio 1972,
Biel 1993, Interzonals 1973 and Zurich 1953. I've looked at some others at the White Collection on a visit to Cleveland. |
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Dec-24-04
| | paulalbert: To <tamar> You asked about my tournament books: Hastings 1895, St. Petersburg 1895-96, St. Petersburg 1914, New York 1924,Baden-Baden 1925, Moscow 1935, World Chessmasters in Battle Royal ( the Hague and Moscow in 1948, this was the tournament for WC after Alekhine's death ), The Chess Struggle in Practice, Zurich 1953 by Bronstein, Second Piatigorsky Cup , Santa Monica, CA 1966, New York International Chess Tournament 1984, Sicilian Love ( Lev Polugaevsky Sicilian Theme Tournament Buenos Aires 1994 ). I am a player and chess patron, not really a chess book collector, but I have accumulated a lot of chess books. The oldest is a 1925 edition of Dreihundert Scachpartien ( 300 Chess Games ) by Siegbert Tarrasch in German of course. Paul Albert |
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Dec-24-04
| | paulalbert: Correction: "Schachpartien" |
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Dec-24-04
| | tamar: <paulalbert> thanks, some great books I imagine. I hadn't heard there was a St Petersburg 1895-96 book. Another one I would like to acquire is St Petersburg 1909, where Lasker and Rubinstein tied. |
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Dec-24-04
| | tamar: 23 b4 is a fine suggestion from Pillsbury rather than 23 Bxd4 that Tarrasch played. I believe Lasker could still have held his position together though. <23 b4 Bxe5 24 Nxc5 Kb6 25 Nge4 c6 26 Nd2 Kc7 27 Nc4 seems to clear the way for White's pawns on the Kside to advance for if 27...c6 26 Nxe6 fxe6
27 Nf6 Bxf6 28 Rxf6 should win> Pillsbury
The other option he notes is <23 b4 b6 24 bxc5 bxc5 25 Bxd4 gives White a powerful attack with both rooks in fine play> Pillsbury However there is a third option found by Shredder 8 that looks fine for Black: 23 b4 b6 24 bxc5 b5! bypassing the pawn and keeping the King safe will eventually win the c5 pawn 25 Nf6 Bxf6 26 exf6 Rgd8 and Black's queenside majority is no worse than White's hard to activate Kside majority. The Black King position could be a benefit in a pawn race later. |
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| Jan-31-05 | | RookFile: You know, if you play over this game, it isn't so much different than some recent world championship games. It's funny, because for a number of years the Berlin defense was out of favor. |
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Jan-31-05
 | | keypusher: <iron maiden>, Pickard republished the 1895 tournament book verbatim with algebraic notation. I own it and love it though, as <tamar> said, the quality of the annotations varies a lot. Kasparov has some further analysis of the Tarrasch Lasker ending in OMGP I -- I vaguely remember that he finds a hole in Pillsbury's analysis. Pickard has also published complete game collections of Anderssen and Steinitz. I have Dover reprints of the 1924 NY Tournament Book (in storage, alas) and the 1922 London book, which is a great collection of games but is not well annotated. I also have London 1851 (original, but in pretty bad shape) Zurich 1953 and London 1982. Not too impressive compared to <paulalbert> or <tamar>, though! I think Dover published a reprint of the 1909 St. Petersburg tournament book, annotations by Lasker, but it is long out of print. You could probably find it on eBay or a used booksite, though. |
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Jan-31-05
| | keypusher: I just checked, Amazon has it. |
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| Jan-31-05 | | suenteus po 147: Who wrote the book on the 1924 NY Tournament? |
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| Jan-31-05 | | iron maiden: I think that was Reti. |
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| Jan-31-05 | | hintza: <suenteus po 147> Alekhine wrote the 1924 New York tournament book: http://www.hardingesimpole.co.uk/bi... |
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| Jan-31-05 | | suenteus po 147: <hintza> Thank you; much appreciated. |
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| Apr-01-07 | | vesivialvy93: Tarrasch was probably the best in the world until 1905, it would have been great to see a match with these two great players before 1900. |
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Feb-13-08
| | keypusher: <vesivialvy93><Tarrasch was probably the best in the world until 1905, it would have been great to see a match with these two great players before 1900.> Couldn't disagree more with your first statement, but I agree with your second. Incidentally, Schallopp's book on the Hastings tournament (in German) is on Google books. http://books.google.com/books?id=HS... |
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| Apr-15-08 | | JG27Pyth: <Tarrasch was probably the best in the world until 1905> -- People's ability to dismiss, overlook and generally disregard the Chess Giant that was Emanuel Lasker is hard to fathom sometimes. He lost here in completely uncharacteristic fashion getting out-calculated in the ending (which is usually Lasker's trick) but then, completely in character, Lasker rebounds from the loss with renewed fight and rallies to win the match. If you check chessmetrics you can see what a dominating player Lasker was... ten-year peak 1893-1902 is surpassed by only one player, Garry Kasparov 1986-1995 http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Peak... |
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| Apr-15-08 | | mistreaver: Garry Kasparov 1986-1995
Imho Kasparov dominated much more his peak lasted at least till 1997. Anand was better in 1998 but he regained the mantle in 1999. In 2000 he lost his title but he was then best again in 2001 and 2002
So technically his peak lasted 16 years despite 1998 , when he played only 1 regular tournament, and 2000 |
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Mar-12-09
| | keypusher: <I have Dover reprints of the 1924 NY Tournament Book (in storage, alas) and the 1922 London book, which is a great collection of games but is not well annotated. I also have London 1851 (original, but in pretty bad shape) Zurich 1953 and London 1982. > It's funny to read this note from four years ago. Since then I've bought reprints/translations of a few (Nuremberg 1896, London 1899, Carlsbad 1907, St. Petersburg 1914), but what amazes me is that I now have originals of London 1862 (Lowenthal), Steinitz's Modern Chess Instructor, a Steinitz-Lasker 1894 match book, St. Petersburg 1895-96, Vienna 1898, Tarrasch's and Hoffer's books about the 1908 championship match, Lasker's book on St. Petersburg 1909, and books on San Remo 1930 and Moscow 1936--all free, courtesy of the internet. |
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Mar-02-17
 | | offramp: 41. Kf5
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Lasker now played 41...Kd3 and lost.
He could have won this crucial game by playing 41...c2!
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If White now plays 42. a4 <(So that if the knight goes Nc1-b3 it can't be dislodged by ...♙a5-a4)>, then the bishop REALLY shows off! 42...Ba5 43. g5 Bd2 44. g6 Bh6! 
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Right around the board! |
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Mar-02-17
 | | ChessHigherCat: Hi <offramp> That bishop sure gets around but did you analyze 45. Nc1 Bxc1 46. g7? Of course black doesn't have to play 45... Bcx1 but it still looks tricky. |
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Mar-02-17
| | offramp: <ChessHigherCat: Hi <offramp> That bishop sure gets around but did you analyze 45. Nc1 Bxc1 46. g7? Of course black doesn't have to play 45... Bcx1 but it still looks tricky.> It does.
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45. Nc1 Bxc1 46. g7.
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46...Bb2 47. g8=Q+ Kb4.
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If Black can avoid the checks, keep his bishop AND a pawn, and queen his c-pawn, then he will probably win. But that is quite a lot to ask! Very tricky, as you say. |
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Dec-12-21
 | | kingscrusher: This looks like a very modern Berlin Defence interpretation! :) |
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