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Jaroslav Sajtar vs Pal Benko
Budapest tt (1954), Budapest HUN, rd 2, Jan-23
Old Indian Defense: Two Knights Variation (A54)  ·  1-0



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  WannaBe: <Sneaky> Thanks for this game. =) Rook = Win, Queen = stalemate.
Jan-21-12  Akavall: Any under-promotion wins. Nice.
Jan-31-12  Akavall: I need to correct my statement. Under-promotion to bishop does not win, since the pawn is lost, if the pawn was on g2, however, than any under-promotion would win.
Feb-01-12  DoctorD: If the WP were on g2, any promotion would win including the promotion to queen since there is no longer a stalemate without Pg4.
Feb-01-12  Akavall: I overlooked that. Promoting to queen should not yield a win. How about if there was an additional pawn on g2, then any under-promotion win, but not queening.

It also would be nice if white didn't have Kf8, where they could delay promotion, and get a queen later. 86.g8R is the strongest move, since it leads to mate in 2; however, other under-promotions probably lead to mate in more moves than Kf8, and then queening.

Feb-01-12  DoctorD: I am not certain I understand your intent in reconstructing this.
Feb-01-12  Akavall: To me it just seems neat to have a position in which the only winning move is a promotion, and that any under-promotion wins. So I am just playing with this position in seeing what changes would make into a desired position.

Why does a position I am describing above is appealing to me? No real reason really, I guess it is the same type of stuff why plays like 'ideal mate' and 'model mate', just aesthetics.

Feb-02-12  DoctorD: You'll find many studies that would fit your desire better, and I am sure the great study composer Benko would agree. Underpromotion is a pretty common theme.

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