Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

John Cochrane vs Howard Staunton
London m2 (1842)
Sicilian Defense: Bowdler Attack (B20)  ·  0-1



explore this opening
find similar games 92 more Cochrane/Staunton games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can display posts in reverse order, by registering a free account then visiting your preferences page and checking the option "Display newest kibitzes on top."

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.


Kibitzer's Corner
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: 7...g5 is a clever trap, but 7...Nxg2+ 8.Kd1 (8.Kf1 d5 9.exd6 e.p. f5 10.Qe2 Nf4 etc.) 8...d5 9.exd6 e.p. f5 10.Qe2 Nf4 11.Qe3 Bxd6 etc. would have been objectively better. After 8.0-0 f5 9.Qe3 white seems to be over the worst. Of course, 8.g3?? loses the Queen.
Jan-06-04  Nova1990: Welcome back, Honza! Since you’ve been gone, one of your games has been the puzzle of the day: Jan Cervenka vs NN, 2002 Also, there are some questions on your page: Jan Cervenka
Oct-16-04  Knight13: Bringing the Queen out too early is a mistake. 10. Qe3 Ng2+ 1-0.
Oct-16-04  Spassky69: 10 bucks says Stanton would be rated 1450 if he came to the future.
Oct-16-04  clocked: <Spassky69> Probably so; however, Staunton certainly would not.
Oct-09-07  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.25.

Cochrane 3 mistakes:
5.Nc3 -0.41 (5.c3 -0.14)
7.Qe4 -0.77 (7.Qf1 -0.42)
8.g3 -2.38 (8.Bb5 -0.03)

Staunton 1 mistake:
7...g5 -0.03 (7...Nxg2+ -0.77)

Oct-11-07  nimh: Correction, new threshold 0.33.

Cochrane 2 mistakes:
7.Qe4 -0.77 (7.Qf1 -0.42)
8.g3 -2.38 (8.Bb5 -0.03)

Staunton 1 mistake:
7...g5 -0.03 (7...Nxg2+ -0.77

Dec-07-08  newzild: Good Tuesday or Wednesday puzzle here: Move 8, black to play.

Dec-24-08  zzzzzzzzzzzz: litte john takes a fall
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Queen trap in the middle of the board in NINE moves!
Jul-05-14  Rickyroller5: If you're playing a Sicilian Defense, are you the black or white pieces?

Forgive my ignorance.

Jul-05-14  Shams: <Rickyroller5> This is one of those questions where the answer is simple but the way players describe their games confuses the issue. Technically all defenses are played by the Black pieces, since it is White who opens hostilities and the second player who responds. (Although particularly tame systems for White are sometimes derisively, and jokingly, referred to as "defenses", e.g. the "Colle Defense". ) So it is always Black who *plays* the Sicilian Defense, in the sense that it is he who ultimately steers the game in that direction. White invites many defenses when he opens 1.e4, among them the very popular Sicilian; when Black replies 1...c5 he officially stamps the game a "Sicilian Defense".

But at the risk of stating the obvious: even if Black chooses to make the game a Sicilian Defense, both players end up *playing* the game. Thus it's perfectly normal to hear things like "I played a sharp Sicilian" or "so-and-so had some great games in the French [Defense]", where in both cases the speaker might well be referring to the player of the *White* pieces. (A very common follow-up question to these statements is "with White or Black?")

Sometimes openings are described by the choices White finally makes (King's Gambit, Torre Attack, Spanish, Italian etc) and sometimes by the choices Black finally makes (Benko Gambit, King's Indian Defense, French Defense, Grunfeld etc). Over time, this has proved the most convenient way to talk about the opening phase of chess. Everyone understands implicitly which player has final say in "choosing" each particular opening.

I hope this has not further confused you.

Jul-06-14  Rickyroller5: <Shams> No, no on the contrary, it has clarified it for me. Thank you for your reply. I thought there was a "Sicilian" AND a "Sicilian Defense." In other words, if one played a Sicilian, then the other player could counter with a Sicilian Defense. lol I get the picture now. 1.e4 c5, IS the Sicilian Defense. Correct?

Then from there, of course are all the variations.

I also found out that "Defense" can be spelled; defense or defence. But 'defense' is the preferred American spelling. At least according to Wikipedia.

Jul-06-14  Shams: <Ricky> <I get the picture now. 1.e4 c5, IS the Sicilian Defense. Correct?> Yes.
Jul-06-14  RookFile: By the way, is this one of those games where black moved first? :)
Aug-19-14  yureesystem: What a masterpiece, well done, Staunton!!!
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Sicilian Defense: Bowlder Attack. 2....e6
from MKD's Sicilian Bowlder Attack by AdolfoAugusto
Sicilian Opening Traps for Black
by sayatosken
Game collection: 6
by gr2ca
Sicilian Bowlder Attack (B20) 0-1 Qe4 has no escape square
from She dropped Mr. SaM and changed her name by fredthebear
Sicilian Bowlder Attack (B20) 0-1 Qe4 has no escape square
from 10 Take Ten Steps Gentlemen, Turn and Fire! by fredthebear
Bowdler Attack-1 e4 c5 2 Bc4
from Sicilian: 3 Bc4 and 2 Bc4-Black wins by imsighked2
The trap of the collection...
from Collections in Idleness 4 by kishchess
early games II
by wwall
9 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection II by PinkLedDoor
Destroying the Queen
from kingofdallas' favorite games by kingofdallas
zumakal blunders archivadas7
by zumakal
Sicilian Bowlder Attack (B20) 0-1 Qe4 has no escape square
from Sloppy Sleepy's Slippery Sloap is Super Slick by Jaredfchess
Sicilian Opening Traps for Black
by isolatedpawn
sicilian 2 Bc4
by Patca63
e4addict's favorite games
by e4addict
Sicilian Opening Traps for Black
by jpetersen46321

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC