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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Miscellaneous Game (1620), ?, rd 50
King's Gambit: Accepted. Kieseritsky Gambit Long Whip (C39)  ·  1-0



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Dec-17-04  Knight13: So how dose Greco win this game?
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  Sneaky: Two extra pawns?
Dec-17-04  Knight13: If it's because of two extra pawns, then Black resigned too early.
Feb-18-05  CHEG: Maybe Black resigned because white had a passed pawn.

Technically I believe it's a won game but there's enough material on the board for something to wrong to happen to white, at least the way I play.

Feb-18-05  CHEG: Maybe Black resigned because white had a passed pawn.

Technically I believe it's a won game but there's enough material on the board for something to wrong to happen to white, at least the way I play.

Feb-18-05  schnarre: After White deploys the Queen Knight & brings his Rook out to play, his central pawn majority should carry the day.
Feb-18-05  JustAFish: This is one of those Greco games that looks as if it could be real. Most good players would resign in black's final position.
Feb-18-05  schnarre: <JustAFish> True enough!
Feb-18-05  InspiredByMorphy: Black resigned because white is up two pawns with no weaknesses to attack. Not to mention white will have no difficulty developing the remaining pieces and blacks king is exposed. 12.Nxg4 was quite the move!
Feb-18-05  schnarre: <InspiredByMorphy> Certainly an audacious move!
Nov-09-05  RC Cookie Dough: InspiredByMorphy, it doesn't matter that black's king is exposed in this position. White has a winning advantage and he's a strong enough player not to screw it up. Resigning here is the polite thing to do.
Nov-09-05  RC Cookie Dough: I'd like to add that although it was the polite thing to do, it was probably a little early. Even against Greco I would have played until the passed pawn was obviously unstoppable.
Jan-11-06  schnarre: I would have played it out till it ended, but that's me (too stubborn for my own good).
Jan-12-06  morpstau: The resignation is indeed not premature but a modern timesaving decision.
Jan-20-06  schnarre: True enough!
Jun-07-11  squaresquat: There's no need to be like Paulus at Stalingrad. Playing out games like this can be a brutal, unpleasant drag. It's tempting to play it safe and just brutally swap down. This takes time better spent elsewhere.
Jun-07-11  MaxxLange: I have been NN against a little Greco before,n a local tourney (1500 v 2300) and I found that resigning when I was in a hopeless position increased my chances of having a good post-mortem analysis.

The "never resign, maybe you can get a swindle" thing is for kids tournaments or blitz, in my opinion. Otherwise, get on with it. Set 'em up again, or go get some lunch, and live to fight another day.

Jun-08-11  MaxxLange: I had White....1 e4 e6 2 d4

I had just decided to give up playing the King's Indian Attack, against the French a, and play the main lines. My opponents 2300 FIDE rating does not change that policy!

2...d5 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 Ne2!?

this was my preparation against the Winawer, such as it was. FM Filatov seemed surprised that a lowly rated player was trying to swindle him in the opening with some gambit from the '20's....

4...dxe4 5 a3 Be7=

and he outplayed me from there

Jun-08-11  Poulsen: Some Greco-games looks more like constructions than actual games, but certainly not this one.

A pity that we do not know more about 17th century chess ...

Jun-10-11  MaxxLange: that's a good point, this seems like a real could have been played on ICC tonight
Jun-11-11  squaresquat: You don't resign as long as you see chances for yourself;as long as you see active play for your pieces, threats,checks,discoveries and the open lines to use them. There is I guess a dark satisfaction to imitate the Wermacht at Stalingrad;the troopers at little Big Horn, and the Texans at the Alamo.
May-23-16  Christoforus Polacco: Probably Polish grandmaster Ksawery Tartakower said : ''no one ever rescued (won) the game by resigning'' :) And instead of 18.... Ne3 better is 18.... Rh8
May-25-17  Yigor: The first occurence of Kieseritzky Gambit: Long Whip defense (5...h5). 7...Be7? is a mistake; correct move is 7...d6.

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