Oct-08-04 | | Jesuitic Calvinist: I've just played through this again, and I would now say this is one of real favourites among the Greco canon. There are many nice points in this game:
10.Bxf7+, so that if 10...Kxf7, then 11.Qxf3+ and 12.Rxh3. 12.Rxh7,Rxh7; 13.Bxg8 threatening Bxh7 as well as Qxf8+. 17.Be6+ forcing 17...Qxe6, when 18.Qd8+,Kc6 sets up 19.d5+ winning the queen. And then a typical Greco mating finish.
A classic! |
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Jan-08-05 | | Jaymthegenius: doesnt the Falkbeer counter gambit refute the kings gambit? Just a thought. |
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Jan-08-05 | | Jaymthegenius: And why didnt Greco think of this Falkbeer counter gambit! Surely an analyser on the kings gambit should not be without studying this counter gambit! I think Greco has no excuse for excluding an analysis of 2...d5! 3.exd5,e4. |
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Jan-08-05 | | Jaymthegenius: And why didnt black take the Bishop! |
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Jan-08-05 | | Jaymthegenius: Jesuitic Calvinitst:10.Bxf7+, so that if 10...Kxf7, then 11.Qxf3+ and 12.Rxh3. JayMtheGenius: Thats why! Now I understand. |
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Jan-20-05 | | InspiredByMorphy: <Jayme> How can the Falkbeer counter
gambit be a refutation when white is up a pawn !?
With best play black can eventually gain back the pawn, but by
then the postion is nothing more than equal, and in fact is
supposed to hold a slight positional advantage to white. Opening Explorer It is far
from a refutation. 3. ...exf simply gains back the pawn
immediately. |
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Apr-18-06 | | CitricAcid13: I like the 13. Bxg8 line but 13. Bg6 is also good but not sound (13 ... Nf6 prevents it). If black tries to move his rook, then simply Qxf8 and it's over. It is not close to sound, but it could snare some inexperienced players. |
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Apr-18-06 | | blingice: This game really depicts the main difference between Greco and Morphy: although they both sacrificed a lot of their pieces, Greco would generally REGAIN that material, whereas Morphy could convert material into positional, where X amount of material would be worth a Y grade position. |
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Apr-02-07 | | Skylark: I thought of playing 15. Bg5+ instead of 15. Qxf8+; leading to either mate or certain loss of the queen - ie 15. ... Be7 16. Qf8+! Qe8 17. Bxe7+ Kd7 18. Be6+ and black can resign. The game move obviously was good enough, but I thought this line was slightly prettier. :) |
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Aug-28-07 | | venk98: fabulous compilation of moves by greco! i liked 17. Be6+!!! |
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Jan-20-09 | | WhiteRook48: great tactic on 19. d5+!! |
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Apr-12-11 | | naruto00122: i saw Rxh7 at "Guess-The-Move" =)
that should be a puzzle someday... |
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Jun-22-11 | | Llawdogg: 12 Rxh7! is a very nice sacrifice. |
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May-19-12 | | Buxtaber: After 13. Bxg7, 13...Rh8 avoids the inevitable loss of the queen. Black ends up down a piece and his king is moved to the middle of the board - still a position without much hope, but slightly more hopeful than the line actually played. |
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Mar-21-19
 | | Ziryab: If someone reads Russian and has Botvinnik’s books, they could do the chess world a service and translate Botvinnik’s analysis of this game. Igor Sukhin, Chess Gems (Mongoose, 2007) offers a couple of tantalizing tidbits. |
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Jul-26-19 | | Chesgambit: best game in 17th century game |
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