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Helmer vs Josef Emil Krejcik
"Buda-pest" (game of the day Jan-20-2017)
Vienna (1917), Vienna AUH
Budapest Defense: General (A52)  ·  0-1

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Mar-14-04  matrexius: This reminds me of the famous Fleissig - Schlechter game. In both games, Black lures White's queen onto the back rank and sacrifices both rooks to keep the queen away from what is important - the fact that Black is in the process of checkmating White's wayward king.
Mar-14-04  Egghead: 14. ... Nd4+ mates a little faster.
Mar-14-04  PAWNTOEFOUR: that was a pleasure playin over!!......to my 'untrained' eye,it looked like white's fourth cause the walls to come tumbling down...i hope some of you stronger players respond to this
Mar-14-04  ughaibu: PAWNTOEFOUR: I'm not a strong player, Krejcik was a joker, this is a game to laugh about. If we laugh his chess was worthwhile.
Mar-14-04
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  kevin86: This whole game looks like a joke!! It's not too good to move pawns in your first four moves. The fourth move led not only to an early pawn loss,but to an early penetration into whites camp.
Mar-14-04  PAWNTOEFOUR: ughaibu,kevin86..........thanks...
Mar-14-04  ughaibu: PAWNTOEFOUR: I've put Krejicj's immortal in, wait and see, it transcends human humour.
Mar-14-04  Woijtek: this game is a joke i believe
Mar-14-04  Andrew Chapman: 12 Qxc7+ looks promising for white.
Mar-14-04  Andrew Chapman: A better idea, I think is 12 Bg5+ f6 13 e5xf6+ g7xf6 14 Qxh8 Qxe2+ 15 Nd2 and upon Nc6 white has Qxf6+
Mar-14-04  phildag: try 8 Qe1.
Jul-18-04  uzeromay: 8. Qe1 Be3 - +
Nov-29-04  Chesspatch: To me, 5. e3, would've done black in.
Nov-29-04  ArturoRivera: Wow, i now know why i should not play 4.-f4?? against the Budapest gambit.
Dec-04-04  FeArMySkiLLz: This game is messed up .i cant beleive white lost. this position can easly be defended for white .For Ex. 8.Qe1 .and every thing is over with .black cannot do nothing now . he is behind material and will soon lose .8.Qe1 ends it all!
Dec-04-04  FeArMySkiLLz: Look at this game please. You will laugh your socks off i promise. This whole game is a joke. Like i said earlier 8.Qe1 ends it all. he is behind material,and the attack has been stopped . Please respond to this. this game is worth yer time
Dec-04-04  FeArMySkiLLz: This is the Budapest Gambit.This is a very good gambit that can win easily. But look at this game. 8.Qe1 stops it all.Black will be behind in material and the attack is stoped.Look at this game and tell me wat u think?
Dec-04-04  FeArMySkiLLz: <Finn75>and <Joshka>and<englishopeningc4> Take a look at this game it will blow u away. Look at 8.Qe1 By the way The Reti is better than the english. The english transposes to d4 way to easily
Dec-04-04  TheSlid: The observation of the (probably now deleted) kibitzer is correct! This is a highly amusing game. There is an English Master called Michael Basman whose style this game reminds of.
Dec-04-04
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  tpstar: <chessgames.com> Take a look at this game please. You will laugh your socks off I promise. It's 17 moves and it will blow u away but u gotta see this repetitive posting.
Dec-04-04  ughaibu: 8.Qe1 Be3 looks okay for black.
Dec-04-04  DanielBryant: No need to spam.
Dec-04-04
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  chessgames.com: FearMySkillz: <Rule 2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.>
Feb-23-05  ongyj: <Chesspatch> 5.e3 would have returned Black the pawn with an inferior position for White in my personal opinion. After 5...Nxe3 either the Queen runs away or 6.Bxe3 Bxe3, White's position seems somewhat scattered.

I don't mean it in any form of personal attacks or insult, but I truely found this a great game on Black's part, rather than a big joke to be laughed at. 5...Nxh2!? truely sparked off this game. In fact if not for 5...Nxh2 I find it difficult for Black to continue at all. Perhaps I'm just too weak, or that I don't understand enough of this position. But when I played several experimental games in this position(other than 5...Nxh2!?) against a friend who I usually outplay, I lost all games as Black. Anyway, please let me offer what I have to say before the community refutes me and continue laughing at this game and maybe myself:)

Firstly, 8.Qe1 Be3+ 9.Kd1 Qxe1+ 10.Kxd1 Bxc3 11.Nd2(Black threatens ...Bxb2) Now Black may play 11...Nxd2+ Kxd2 cxd4 with an even game or slightly better for White in my opinion. I find it better for Black to continue it's venture with 8...Qd8!? threatening discovered check or Bb4+ winning the Queen. I hope someone can help me validate this idea and hereby thank you all in advance:)

Back to the other aspects of the story, <Andrew Chapman> has pointed out many strong possibilities for White. 12.Qxc7+!? Nd7!? Black has to defend the c5 Bishop. 12...Nd7!? also served the purpose of connecting it's backrank Rooks. The position is extremely complicated. Both sides need to attack and defend at the same time. In fact I saw 13.Nc3! as one of the best choices for White, defending the e2 pawn while threatening Nd5+ and Bg5+ winning the Queen. Thus Black needs to move the Queen out of the way. 13...Qf5+!? and I think the game really explodes with 14.e4! and White seems to win in my humble opinion.

Perhaps 10...Qxf1 was wrong. If so, I think the only good alternative is 10...Qxe5. In material terms, Black is down a Bishop for 2 pawns. But positionally it is hard to say. The e5 Queen is well placed. It keeps an eye on the h2 Rook while guarding the c7 square. It also poses threatening checks around the exposed White King. I think it's a more promising game for Black.

Comments & Criticisms are greatly appreciated. Thanks:)

Feb-25-05  ongyj: Please ignore my previous post. I realised that this outrageous sacrifice only succeeded due to Whites inaccuracies. Now I'll be glad to have someone to guide me on how to play for Black in the position after 5.Nh3... Thanks.
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