Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Serafino Dubois vs Jean Dufresne
Rotterdam (1863), Rotterdam NED
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Wurzburger Trap (C29)  ·  1/2-1/2



explore this opening
find similar games 1 more Dubois/Dufresne game
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.


Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-09-08  Kiborg007: White can move forward his d pawn, because black can't take him with rook! Then he can take g or b pawn.
Nov-09-08  hcgflynn: interesting situation... for instance lets try 41. d6. My line is:

41. d6 Rc8 42. Kd5 Rc5+ 43. Kd4 Rc8

so the white king cannot enter into black's fort unless he sacrifices his d or f pawn:

44. d7 Rd8 45. Kd5 Rxd7+ 46. Kc6 Rd8 47. Kxb6 Ra8

so what now? the h5 bishop cannot move and black seems to stop white queenside pawns. the only chance is to sacrifice the f pawn.

48. f8=Q+ Rxf8 49. Kxa5

i don't know whether my analysis is correct so far or not, neither that white is winning in this position or black has the chance to draw. what does the computer says, anyone?

Nov-09-08  hcgflynn: i've made some further analysis after 49. Kxa5. everything seemed to be hopeless except 49. - Rh8:

49. - Rh8 50. b4 Rxh5 51. gxh5 (51. b5 seems interesting) g4 52. b5 g3 53. b6 g2 54. b7 g1=Q 55. b8=Q Qc5+

can black save the game with perpetual?

Nov-10-08  Kiborg007: Computer said this: 41 d6 Ke6 42 d7 Rf8 43 Kd4 Rd8 44 Ke4 Rf8 45 Bg6 Kf6 46 Bh5 Ke6 47 Kd4 Rd8 48 Ke4 Rh8 49 Bg6 Rf8 50 Kd4 Rb8 51 Bf5 Kxf7 52 Kd5 Ke7 53 Kc6 Kd8 54 Be6 Ke7 55 Kc7 ... and so on. whit King take then a and b pawn, but black can take g pawn.
Jul-14-14  GumboGambit: Along with

H Caro vs K Hollaender, 1888

this is the closest db game that follows the full Wurzburger Trap line. (11 ...Bxc2 12. b3)

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
by Gottschalk
Wurzburger Trap
from Unorthodox Games; Unusual Names [ECO=B,C] by GumboGambit
Wurzburger Trap
from Unorthodox Games; Unusual Names [ECO=B,C] by GG by fredthebear
Viennas for Luvas Squeezin' Fredthebear
by fredthebear
what can happen if nf3 before d3...Qh+, very complicated
from Vienna Gambit Declined by knkang

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2020, Chessgames Services LLC