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Akiba Rubinstein vs Efim Bogoljubov
"¡Akiba Akiba!" (game of the day Aug-16-2017)
Vienna (1922), Vienna AUT, rd 3, Nov-15
Slav Defense: General (D10)  ·  1-0

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Aug-16-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Wow, QED. If you can try to grasp the concept of metaphor you'd realize that it's highly unlikely that S. thinks he's running anywhere since, like Buddhism, it's non-dualist so there's no separate entity in the first place.

And while we're dropping names, here's another:

William Blake — 'That which can be made Explicit to the idiot is not worth my care.' .

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: <ChessHigherCat>

Oh, now he used a metaphor! Ha ha the wrong one, but okay.

A Hindu would state that Buddhism is a state of impersonalism yes. An ultimate form of illusion.

But, you won't call me dumb, just drop in another name ☺

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: PS and now what?

Socialism is impersonalism too! Coincedence...?

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: PPS now what? Lost your socialist tongue?

Buddhism was allowed in the Third Reich. And their temples in Germany carried the same impersonalist symbol as the nazis: the swastika.

Coincedence?

"The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell."

~Confucius

As it is coincedence that the Japanese want to hide ALL swastikas from their -Buddhist- temples? For foreigners...

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/01/...

Since when are the Japanese so concerned with foreigners? Lol since they keep betting on the wrong horses, I suppose.

Aug-16-17
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  offramp: I think today's pun would be better firstly as ¡Akiva Akiva!, secondly as a game from San Sebastián.
Aug-16-17
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  thegoodanarchist: < john barleycorn: <ChessHigherCat: Fantastic game. It must have been emotionally charged with Rubinstein vs. our friendly local Nazi sympathizer.>

In 1922?>

Bogo was ahead of his time. (joke)

Aug-16-17  Muttley101: In Soviet Russia, Bogo supports you!
Aug-16-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <WorstPlayerEver> You probably don't even remember what you were raving about last night, but just a few side notes:

1) I hope you are better at Guess the Move than at guess the personality, because not only am I not particularly interested in Hawkins, although I have nothing against him, but I have no socialist tendencies, either, and even less interest in national socialism.

2) Swastikas are Hindu, not Buddhist, and they were entirely innocent symbols of happiness (with a different orientation of the arms, BTW). The fact that the symbol was adopted millennia later by Hitler for whatever psychotic reasons means precisely diddlysquat about Hinduism and even less about Buddhism.

3. "Impersonalism" is some idiotic term from Hari-Krishna (https://krishna.org/the-four-philos...), which is a last ditch attempt to preserve theism and thus the hierarchy that places Guru Diklik above all else. It has absolutely nothing to do with Buddhism.

<thegoodanarchist> I just forgot to check the date of the game, you're never one to miss a cheapo, are you? BTW, a surefire sign of a pathetic attempt at humor is when the author has to write(joke) to let people in on the hilarity. Aha ha. Ahhaaha HAAA! What a very witty guy you are!

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: <ChessHigherCat>

"In Buddhism, the swastika is almost always clockwise."

Wiki

You react in a passive-aggressive way. Little wonder; you don't have your facts straight. Instead you suck 'em right out of your thumb. But you are not a socialist... strange.

What you need is therapy. Maybe cognitive intervention is something for you.

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: PS Krishna org is not a hindu site

http://www.iskcon.org

It's a site meant for Western people who do not know what to do with their money and their time. As empty-headed as they are. Iskcon leading members have been accused of every crime you can imagine. And some of them are behind bars. Google: iskcon crimes

Now FYI this is a hindu site:

https://www.indiadivine.org

Aug-16-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <WorstPlayerEver>: <You react in a passive-aggressive way. Little wonder; you don't have your facts straight. Instead you suck 'em right out of your thumb. >

I hate to think what orifice you suck yours out of. And I don't react in a "passive-aggressive" way. Get your psychobabble terms right: Passive-Aggressive people refrain from reacting to show their hostility. I react in a plain old aggressive way.

<"In Buddhism, the swastika is almost always clockwise." Wiki>

Hindu Swastikas predated Buddhism by thousand of years, which in turn predated Nazism by thousand of years, so I fail to see how their use by Hitler can provide any useful information about Buddhism, although it sheds a good deal of light on your pseudo-logical delirium.

<PS Krishna org is not a Hindu site>

Who said it was? Trying reading what I wrote: It's a Hare Krishna site, as I said (that's why it says Society for International Krishna Consciousness at the top), which has nothing to do with real Hinduism or Buddhism.

<What you need is therapy. Maybe cognitive intervention is something for you.>

Yes precisely, please send your great insights and helpful suggestions to craptlap.org so we can take this off the chess forum. You may also find kindred spirits on the Rogoff page and in the local insane asylum.

Aug-16-17
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  offramp: It looks to me as if something from the dreaded Rogoff page has overflowed here.

In a lunatic moment I once suggested to my dear friends Danny and Marlon that the Kenneth Rogoff page be summarily eliminated.

Danny said to me and Marlon that without the Rogoff page its idle banter would be transferred to other pages, causing even worse problems.

We laughed, but we realised that once again Daniel had been proven right.

Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: <offramp>

What kind of eh problems? Someone made a stupid comment. That's all. I leave it from here.

Aug-16-17
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  catlover: I suggest we get back to talking about the game.

If we can't talk about the game, let's at least talk about the pun: "Akiba! Akiba!" Other than repeating Rubenstein's name, what's the pun?

Wait—isn't that the name of a Japanese dog breed? Oops...no, that's "Akita".

Aug-16-17  ColeTrane: CG changed the original pun.....last night it read "#!@*! Akiba"

to me it was a play on Efim's name, like, "F#@* Him!"

Aug-16-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <WorstPlayerEver: <offramp>

<What kind of eh problems? Someone made a stupid comment. That's all. I leave it from here.>

I admit I should have checked the dates before I said it must have been emotionally charged between Rubinstein and the Nazi-sympathizer Boguljobov, but the date and official title are more or less irrelevant, since he was no doubt an anti-semite and Nazi sympathizer before the putsch:

<According to Hans Kmoch, Bogoljubow was sympathetic to the Nazis (e.g. insisting on the use of swastika to identify his nationality even before it was a universally accepted emblem of Germany) and was insensitive towards the plight of his Jewish colleagues whom he openly taunted.>

http://tartajubow.blogspot.com/2012...

Aug-16-17
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  kevin86: Here's one for two rooks over the queen.
Aug-16-17
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  jith1207: <ColeTrane>: I saw that as well. I thought someone hacked this site, and I expected some unrelated comments to prove my theory, and now I can see that too. One new entry for the iskcon crimes,I guess.
Aug-16-17  WorstPlayerEver: <ChessHigherCat>

All good, I have one of these days lol

Aug-16-17  ColeTrane: <jith1207> at least I wasn't hallucinating.....however these Neo Nazis hacking the site isn't much more comforting
Aug-17-17
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  offramp: What ChessHigherCat could say is this:
"Saying there were no Nazis in 1922 is the same as saying there have been no Nazis since 1945."
Aug-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <offramp: What ChessHigherCat could say is this: "Saying there were no Nazis in 1922 is the same as saying there have been no Nazis since 1945.">

Good idea, I will say that: "Saying there were no Nazis in 1922 is the same as saying there have been no Nazis since 1945."

And don't even think of plagiarizing that statement!

Although, for the sake of brevity, wiki assigns it to this period:

The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly referred to in English as the Nazi Party was a far-right political party in Germany that was ***active between 1920 and 1945*** and practised the ideology of Nazism."

Anyway, the party name is entirely incidental to my point, which was that a game between a Jew and an outspoken anti-Semite must be particularly emotionally charged.

Aug-17-17
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  thegoodanarchist: <ChessHigherCat:

<thegoodanarchist> I just forgot to check the date of the game, you're never one to miss a cheapo, are you? BTW, a surefire sign of a pathetic attempt at humor is when the author has to write(joke) to let people in on the hilarity. Aha ha. Ahhaaha HAAA! What a very witty guy you are!>

Yes, I am very witty. Glad you liked the joke.

Aug-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: < thegoodanarchist: <ChessHigherCat:

<thegoodanarchist> I just forgot to check the date of the game, you're never one to miss a cheapo, are you? BTW, a surefire sign of a pathetic attempt at humor is when the author has to write(joke) to let people in on the hilarity. Aha ha. Ahhaaha HAAA! What a very witty guy you are!>

Yes, I am very witty. Glad you liked the joke.>

Once again I thank you for being so explicit. I never would have noticed, otherwise.

Jul-27-18  bengalcat47: I agree with <catlover>. Let's get back to talking about the game. In the final position Black resigns because his king is caught in a decisive attack by the two rooks and the bishop. Black could avoid mate but he would end up a whole rook down.
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