| Dec-09-04 | | Dick Brain: Bogoljubov spent 2 hours on his 24th move. The move loses a piece. |
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| Dec-09-04 | | aw1988: Oh good GOD. Do you have proof he spent 2 hours on that move?? |
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Dec-09-04
 | | tpstar: Is there an improvement here? 24 ... Rxf3 also loses a piece to 25. axb5 Rfxf2 26. bxc6 but now White's Rooks have open lines. The Qb5 can't abandon the Re2, yet if the Queen doesn't move (24 ... Rexf2), White has 25. Qxf8+! & 26. axb5 winning a Rook. Looks like Black's best was 24 ... Qxb2 losing the exchange to 25. Qxd5+ Kh8 26. Nf7+ Rxf7 (26 ... Kg8? 27. Nh6+ mates) 27. Qxf7 threatening mate on f8 and Black's position has all the makings of a crappy game. |
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| Dec-09-04 | | Calli: Odd tidbit - Steiner defeated the top three finishers (1. Nimzovitsch, 2. Bogoljubow, 3. Tartakower) in the tournament (Berliner Schachgesellschaft) but ended up in eighth place. |
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| Dec-09-04 | | iron maiden: Sort of like Dus-Chotimirsky at St. Petersburg 1909. |
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| Dec-10-04 | | Calli: Sort of. <IM> refers to the fact that Dus Chotimirski beat Lasker and Rubinstein (tied for1-2) while finishing 13th. He did lose 4 games to the next five places in the table, however. A little odder to me is third place at St.Petersburg. Duras lost all his games to the top five and six total, yet still took 3rd. |
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| Dec-11-04 | | aw1988: Reminds me of a tournament I played in about 1976 or so... I believe in Amsterdam... a 20-round(!) swiss, I won the first 13 games in a row(!), then lost the last 7. I forgot where I ended up ranking. |
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Dec-11-04
| | tpstar: <aw1988> So Alexander, you were quite the sensation at that tournament, huh?! Your performance rating must have been astronomical. Do you have any games from that event (or others) in this db? And what did Bobby think of your winning streak? ;>D |
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| Dec-11-04 | | aw1988: I wouldn't know, as the last meeting was in 1971. And no, i'm not in this database, i'm only a patzer with a few lucky streaks. Those first 13 rounds were sensational, i'm quite proud of it. :) |
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| Dec-11-04 | | aw1988: The 7 losses afterward were not as fun. :( |
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Dec-11-04
| | tpstar: <aw1988> Well then you should have just kept on winning, right? :>) Who's the biggest "name player" you've come across in a serious game, and how did you do? |
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| Dec-11-04 | | aw1988: I'm not sure what you mean by name player... |
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Dec-11-04
| | tpstar: By Round 14 you must have been sitting pretty, right? Playing lots of senior masters and such? Or maybe in your other exploits? Or maybe not. |
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| Dec-11-04 | | aw1988: Oh, I was playing players well above my level- was clear leader by that point, but in round 14 I lost my deep concentration, and in 15 more so, then I got depressed after 2 losses, and lost the next 5... but 13 wins in a row is not something to complain about! No no, no well-known players, it was only a friendly tournament- but the way I bombed through it was really special. The "namesake players" i've played was rarely done in tournaments. |
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Dec-12-04
 | | tamar: <Bogoljubov spent 2 hours on his 24th move> Probably giving himself a curse laden lecture after it was too late. Had Bogoljubov seen what was coming, he would have played 22...h6 and driven the knight away before playing the rook in. 22...h6 23 Nf3 Re2
0r 22...h6 23 a4 Qb6 24 Nf3 Ne6 leaving Black in control |
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| Dec-16-04 | | Dick Brain: <Oh good GOD. Do you have proof he spent 2 hours on that move??> Yes! I read it on the Internet so it has to be true ;=) |
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Jun-16-06
 | | OBIT: I had to look up this game myself after reading about it in Soltis' column in the June "Chess Life". I'd never trust anything I read on the Internet, but I never doubt anything written by Soltis. :) |
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| Jun-20-06 | | ganstaman: <OBIT> Funny, that's exactly why I'm looking at this game now, too. It really makes me feel good to know that GM's can make terrible blunders too. Real confidence booster for the rest of us. :) |
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| Apr-14-09 | | whiteshark: I can't but think it's a bogus story. |
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| Sep-20-09 | | Aspirador: Yeah, it's unfair to say that 24...Qc4 "loses a piece". The position is already lost at that point. No better move available really. |
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Sep-02-18
| | sachistu: The two suggestions made by <tpstar> e.g. 24...Rxf3 and 24...Qxb2 were analyzed in Wiener Schachzeitung 1928 (114-115). 24...Rxf3 loses after 25.axb5 Rfxf2 26.bxc6 h6 27.cxb7! (WSz)
or 25...Nxd4 26.Nxf3 Nxf3 27.Kg2 Nh4 28.Kg3 g5 29.Rxc7! with a hopeless ending for Black. (WSz) 24...Qxb2 is Lasker's defensive try, but after 25.Qxd5+ Ne6! (better than 25...Kh8 26.Nf7+) Lasker gave the inferior 27.Qd7? which is met by 27...Ref2. Instead, Wagner suggested 27.Qc4! b5 28.axb5 axb5 29.Qe2! etc. Tarrasch tried to improve with 27...Rfxf2 followed by 28.Nf4 Kf8 29.Nxe2 Rxe2 threatening ...Rg2+ followed by ...Qf2. Again, Wagner provided an answer: 30.Kh1! Rg2 31.Qxc7! Qf2 32.Nd2 with a safe position and an extra Rook. Regarding the score, both Wiener Schachzeitung and Magyar Sakkvilag give the order as 29...Ne6 30.Ng3 Rc2 31.Rf1 Rf7 which reaches the same position as the game score on this site. Deutsche Schachzeitung, Shakhmaten List and Sahovski Glasnik give the order given here. Wiener Schachzeitung stops after 36.Rb1 saying... 'and wins'. Deutsche Schachzeitung gives 38.f4 c5 39.Ng3 'and wins'. Magyar Sakkvilag, 1928 p67-68 is the only source I have found so far that gives the full 56 moves given here. |
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Dec-21-24
 | | wwall: The story of Bogo spending 2 hours on a losing move was also published in the British magazine CHESS, vol 37, Oct 1971, p. 4. It also mentioned that Korchnoi took 1 hour 35 minutes in a move against Geller. |
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