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NN vs Emil Joseph Diemer
"Redeemer of Material" (game of the day Jul-11-2018)
corr (1978) (correspondence)
Elephant Gambit: Paulsen Countergambit (C40)  ·  0-1

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Feb-19-07
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  Black Vampire: <True Blue:That's a shame, the puzzle should have started at move 12!> No, it isnīt. Itīs a Monday puzzle, so it must be easy (if you want to start at move 12, the puzzle would be for Wednesday or Thursday); besides, Black made a mistake, because 12...Qxe4+ is much better, according to Crafty 19.01. In fact, the checkmate is only possible after the pretty greedy 14.Qxh8??
Feb-19-07
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  Black Vampire: Well, True Blue, 11.Qb5+ was the first important mistake, but the real blunders were the captures of both of the Black rooks and the pawn b7.
Feb-19-07  Themofro: Easy puzzle to start off the week, main difficulty is to do away with Bb4+ which would also win i beleive, but the queen sac is much more elegant.
Feb-19-07  tjshann: I got to this late today, but did manage to solve it after realizing fairly quickly that discovered check did not lead to a clear Monday one-two and out.
Feb-19-07  kulitbulilit: Who is NN!!? Why wasn't his name given in full? Will somebody tell me please! I'm intrigued!
Feb-19-07  LPeristy: Took me a rediculously long time, as I was fixated on trying to get something out of the disco check. But I did get it eventually.
Feb-20-07  Tactic101: This double rook sacrifice and Queen sac definately was much safer than Anderssen's Immortal Game.
Jan-18-09  WhiteRook48: NN takes too many sacrifices...
Nov-28-11  IRONCASTLEVINAY: NN means anonymous.
Mar-02-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Infohunter: <kulitbulilit: Who is NN!!? Why wasn't his name given in full? Will somebody tell me please! I'm intrigued!>

<IRONCASTLEVINAY: NN means anonymous.>

Correct; the abbreviation is derived from the Latin "Nomen nescio," which means, "I do not know the name."

May-14-12  Llawdogg: Both rooks and then the queen!
May-15-12  LoveThatJoker: Cool game by Diemer, today's Player of the Day!

LTJ

Aug-09-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

NN vs E J Diemer, 1978.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF DIEMER.
Your score: 38 (par = 27)

LTJ

PS. Par is now 28.

Oct-20-15  Devin Larson: NN is No Name
Jul-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: How could Diemer have played a correspondence game with someone whose name he didn't know?

Before the Internet existed you had to send moves *by mail*. For this it is necessary to have a mailing address. How could Diemer have obtained the address of his opponent without learning the name too?

Jul-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Today's game was chosen as a special welcoming gift to our latest member User: DerDiemer,

I am sure you will all join me in congratulating him on his excellent decision.

Jul-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <al wazir: How could Diemer have played a correspondence game with someone whose name he didn't know?>

It's a mystery. I made exactly the same point at Zukertort vs Chess Club, 1868.

Jul-11-18  paavoh: Who would want to give his/her name and be immortalized after such a disaster?

Perhaps Black/the magazine editor was polite enough to remove the name before publishing the game score.

Jul-11-18  takchess: For those who like double rook sacs.Game Collection: Take My Rooks by Minev and Seirawan. Also I have to start playing the elephant gambit.
Jul-11-18  morfishine: 'NN' is better known for his remarkable longevity having lost games in 7 centuries
Jul-11-18  BornAmish: <For those who like double rook sacs.Game Collection: Take My Rooks by Minev and Seirawan. Also I have to start playing the elephant gambit.>

I played a guy once in the Chicago Open who "offered" his rooks, but I only took the first one & retreated back and eventually won easily. He asked me after why I didn't take both of them (and referenced he studied, Take My Rooks), so I told him, "Why be greedy? I've already got a material advantage." All that study wasted on the assumption both rooks would be taken.

Jul-11-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Carpe Diemer!
Jul-11-18  takchess: Bornamish , A fun story,my favorite game in the book is one of the Reti Euwe games I wonder if you just take 1 there.
Jul-11-18  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 22 dpa done

1. + / - (1.11): 6.Nb5 a6 7.d4 Qe7 8.N5c3 f5 9.g4 Nd7 10.Nd2 Nb6 11.gxf5 Bxf5 12.Ndxe4 0-0-0 13.d6 cxd6 14.Bg5 Nf6 15.0-0-0 Bxe4 16.Bxf6 Qxf6 17.Qxe4 Kb8 18.Bg2 d5 19.Qe5+ Qxe5 20.dxe5 Bc5 21.Nxd5 Rhe8 22.Nxb6 Bxb6 23.Rxd8+ Rxd8 24.Kb1 Bxf2 25.Rf1 Bc5 26.e6 Be7

2. + / - (0.84): 6.c3 Bd6 7.d3 exd3 8.Qxe5+ Bxe5 9.Bxd3 Nf6 10.0-0 0-0 11.Nf3 Bd6 12.c4 Bg4 13.Be3 Bxf3 14.gxf3 Nbd7 15.Nc3 a6 16.f4 g6 17.Kg2 Ng4 18.Ne4 Nxe3+ 19.fxe3 Rfe8 20.f5 g5 21.Bc2 g4 22.Nxd6 cxd6

Jul-11-18
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  Korora: Another player mated because the ♕ went poaching crows and left the ♔ unattended.
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