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NN vs Emil Joseph Diemer
"Redeemer of Material" (game of the day Jul-11-2018)
corr (1978) (correspondence)
Elephant Gambit: Paulsen Countergambit (C40)  ·  0-1

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Feb-19-07  Rubenus: This one was harder than a normal Monday, because you immediately think there is a discovered check. It should be a Tuesday. (I had seen this game a few days ago so it wasn't a real puzzle for me.)
Feb-19-07  spinal pat: Very nice start of the week. At first I was looking at the queen side of the board, but couldn't find a good answer. When I looked at the kingside the answer just jumped at me.
Feb-19-07  prinsallan: What about 14... Nc3+
Doesnt this work?

15. Kd2 (Kd4 leads to a forced mate in 4) Qf4+
16. Ke1 (best) Qe4+
17. Kd2 Rxd5
18. Qg8+ (Typical Computer Save? ;D) Kxg8
19. c4 Qe3+
20. Kc2 (only move) Nb4#

I looked into this, since I seldom play a queensac in a real game. Any comments and flaws in my line? -Please post it then!

Best Regards
-Prinsallan

Feb-19-07  cjhasbrouck: Excellent puzzle material, but of course I think it should've been saved for about a Wednesday. There are so many Chess lovers that have no chance of solving this, the easiest puzzle of the week

Like everybody else I spent 5 minutes looking at discovered checks before finding the right move!

Feb-19-07  Tactic101: Also looking for a discovered check. After about 10 seconds, I gave the idea up when I saw the powerful effect of the white bishop and knight on the kingside. Then I saw Qg3+!! White got really greedy. Thats why he is NN.
Feb-19-07  rigel1503: To my great embarrassment I missed 14. ... Qg3+!! However, I came up with 14. ... Bb4+ which I feel still wins for Black, albeit not nearly as sweetly:

Eg, 14. Qxh8 Bb4+ 15. c3 Nxc3+ 16. Kf2 Nd1+ 17. Kg1 Bc5+ 18. Nxc5 Qd4+ 19. Be3 Qxe3#

OR 14. Qxh8 Bb4+ 15. Nc3 Nxc3+ 16. Kf2 Nd1+ 17. Kg1 Bc5+ 18. Nxc5 Qd4+ 19. Be3 Qxe3#

OR 14. Qxh8 Bb4+ 15. Bd2 Nxd2+ 16. Kf2 Qf4+ 17. Ke1 Qe3+ 18. Be2 Qxe2#

Feb-19-07  greensfield: Tried to make the discovered check work but couldn't.

Tried 14...Bb4+ first, then the discovered check works! White can block with either Knight or Bishop on d2, Pawn on c3

Then after Knight removes the blockage, mate swiftly follows

Feb-19-07  Skylark: It really wasn't that hard. It took a glance to see that the king was stalemated, and then I noticed that f2 could not be obstructed. *waits expectantly for Sunday*
Feb-19-07
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  OhioChessFan: I don't feel so bad looking for that Knight move that wasn't there.
Feb-19-07  rigel1503: OR 14. Qxh8 Bb4+ 15. c3 Nxc3+ 16. Kd2 (instead of 16. Kf2) Ne2+ 17. Nc3 Bxc3+ 18. Kd3 Bf5+ 19. Kc4 Nb6+ 20. Kb5 Qxd5+ 21. Ka6 Nc8 22. Qxg7+ Kxg7 23. Bh6+ Kxh6 24. bxc3 Bd3+ 25. c4 Bxc4# --- IF 18. bxc3 then 18. ...Qxc3+ 19. Kd1 Nxc1+ 20. Be2 Bxe2#

OR 14. Qxh8 Bb4+ 15. c3 Nxc3+ 16. Kd2 Ne2+ 17. Kd3 Qxd5+ 18. Nd4 Qxd4+ 19. Kc2 Bf5+ 20. Kb3 Nc5#

Feb-19-07  TrueBlue: that's a shame, the puzzle should have started at move 12!
Feb-19-07  manbot: funny, i looked at this puzzle last night thinking it was the sunday puzzle. psychologically i was lookign for somethigh long and complex so it took me practically forever to find the simple solution. hoo boy.
Feb-19-07  chessmoron: The 2 rook sacs is beyond awesome. The finishing touch by the sacrifice of the queen is simple and beautiful.
Feb-19-07  ianD: Beautiful!
Feb-19-07  TrueBlue: Qb5 was the BIG error by white?
Feb-19-07  YouRang: I found it pretty fast, because I always look first at the opposing king's situation. Here, I noticed that white's king was immobile -- meaning that any unblockable & uncapturable check was mate.

The only pieces that can deliver check (while keeping the white king immobile) are the queen and DSB. In this case, the first check (with the queen) is capturable, but the 2nd check from the bishop is not. Check, and mate.

Feb-19-07  tatarch: You gotta love games like this where an overly materialistic player just gets abused. And, I like that if I had to guess when this game was played without seeing the date, I would probably guess about 100 years prior.
Feb-19-07  YouRang: This guy has an interesting bio: Emil Joseph Diemer
Feb-19-07
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  BishopofBlunder: This took an agonizingly long time to find. What makes it worse is I have seen this game before, and it still took me a while. Like others, I was stuck on the discovered check.

The lessons to be learned from this game for "NN" are: 1) Develop, develop, develop, and 2) Keep the woman in her place (at least until you get the King safe).

Feb-19-07
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  fm avari viraf: There are many such examples where either White or Black gets mated. It's very surprising to see in a corr. game where one has all the time under the sun to analyse but here White keeps swallowing hefty Elephants-Rooks without paying any heed to the trap.
Feb-19-07
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  playground player: How could I have forgotten that a Monday puzzle always features a Queen sac? But I still think moving the Knight for a discovered check leads to a nice spell of chasing the White King all over the board and finally nailing him. There's really nothing the White pieces can do here.
Feb-19-07  beatles fan: proud to say that I found it in a split second. With mondays there is only one line to calculate!
Feb-19-07
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  kevin86: Black pulls the triple play of chess games;he sacs his queen and two rooks-and mates in fifteen moves!

The mate is like a fool's mate against an open king-instead of a smothered one.

Feb-19-07
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  Cannon Fodder: Was Nemo Nostradamus playing White?
Feb-19-07
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  Black Vampire: <True Blue:That's a shame, the puzzle should have started at move 12!> No, it isn´t. It´s a Monday puzzle, so it must be easy (if you want to start at move 12, the puzzle would be for Wednesday or Thursday); besides, Black made a mistake, because 12...Qxe4+ is much better, according to Crafty 19.01. In fact, the checkmate is only possible after the pretty greedy 14.Qxh8??
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