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NN vs Emil Joseph Diemer
? (1984)
Zukertort Opening: Herrstrom Gambit (A04)  ·  0-1



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Apr-27-04  ughaibu: The complete answer to 1.Nf3, I'm sure Reti's turning in his grave at the association with his name.
Apr-27-04  Calculoso: For those of use keeping track at home, the score is actually 16. ... f2#.
Apr-27-04  Calculoso: Also, before white moved the knight from g2 to h4, he should have played Rc2 at which point the pawn and queen can no longer coordinate a worthwhile attack and the pawn at f3 is lost.
Apr-27-04  ughaibu: I imagine black would reply to Rc2 with f2, black would still be a pawn up and I would prefer the black side myself.
Apr-27-04  Calculoso: Yes, but that would have been better than what happened in the game. :)
Apr-27-04  ughaibu: That's certainly true.
Apr-27-04  Benjamin Lau: A good way of understanding how white got so easily crushed is to see this game as essentially an Alekhine's Defense Reversed, except that the defender is up a pawn. With that in mind, one can see that 3. d4?! was a subtle positional mistake in retrospect, because all Alekhine's Defense players know that ...d6 is necessary to breakup white's center in the normal Alekhine and initiate counterplay, therefore d3 is necessary with white in the reversed variation. Playing d4 overextended white's pawn center and prevented a breakout. Better may have thus been 3. Nf3, entering Alekhine's Defense in the normal way, but with an extra pawn. 2. h6 was also perfectly playable. Can someone explain to me why 8. c4?! was played? Doesn't look quite right.
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  kevin86: Out of sixteen oves,eight were by white's often harrassed knight;even an Alekhine's defense doesn't have such a nervous knight.
Mar-11-06  Autoreparaturwerkbau: <kevin> Lol, that's an interesting stat!
May-04-06  McCool: That's the fastest piece taken for nothing, in any game I can think of.
Aug-31-06  Chess Lou Zer: What a pathetic way to lose!
Dec-20-08  WhiteRook48: 16 Qxf3 saves NN
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  whiteshark: <WhiteRook48: 16 Qxf3 saves NN> 'saves' is rather relative here, as white is a ♖ down after 16... Qxc1+. Veritably, no mate.
Dec-20-08  WhiteRook48: So I have to be a me down, eh? Oh well,
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