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Owen M Hindle vs Guenther Moehring
Tel Aviv Olympiad Final-B (1964), Tel Aviv ISR, rd 8, Nov-18
Scotch Game: Göring Gambit. Declined (C44)  ·  0-1

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Jul-30-05  awfulhangover: I saw 69.-Be3 at once and was sure it had to be the move, but I couldn't figure out the lines after 70.f3
Jul-30-05  patzer2: Today's puzzle solution is the amazing endgame tactic 69...Be3!!, offering up the Bishop to force a winning passed pawn. See Topalov vs Shirov, 1998 for a modern super GM game employing this theme.
Jul-30-05
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  Annie K.: <Catfriend>! Where have you been? We were just looking for you. :)

Sorry I missed your post on the Kramnik page. BTW, I don't know how to contact you - and please don't give your address here! - but you can find out my email with a bit of completely legal detective work - I left sufficient clues, just didn't want to make it too easy. ;)

Jul-30-05  vangogh228: I cannot believe it! I got one on a Saturday! Woohoo!
Jul-30-05
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  Annie K.: <chessgames.com> Congrats on the new format including the sac, I guess. Only problem is, I usually only look up who's to win and on what move on the main page... and then click the link, to look at the larger board. But today I found the solution staring back at me as soon as the page loaded... kinda spoils it. :(
Jul-30-05  nfazli: what if 72.Bd5?
Jul-30-05  Montreal1666: <nfazli:> There are two passed pawns. The bishop can only stop one of them.
72)Bd5 a2
Jul-30-05  belka: I was close:
After 69... Bd2
70. Kxh6 g4+
71. Kg6 Be1
72. h6? Bxf2 and ..Bd4 to cover h8 is unstoppable.
However I missed 72. Kf5, when the King will capture the passer because Black is 1 tempo too slow to capture the f pawn; Black cannot play g3 because of fxg. Neither passed pawn can queen, and it's a draw.
Jul-30-05  TheSlid: Ironically, Owen Hindle was something of an expert in endgames. He wrote at least one book on the subject that I once owned and appear to have lost :(
Jul-30-05  Catfriend: <Annie K> I only know where you live:) Sorry, I'm more or less out of the site, lack of time is painful:(
Jul-30-05  Catfriend: OK, I think I know how to try and find you... But not right now, sorry:) Too busy:(
Jul-30-05
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  Annie K.: Any time :)

If you email me, be sure to put "Catfriend" in the title, so I won't delete it as spam.

Jul-30-05  Nicholson: I actually got this one. Amazing.
Jul-30-05  Jim Bartle: Yes, maybe this is easy--IF it's presented as a puzzle with "black plays and wins." How many other "brilliant" moves are there to consider?

I doubt it's so easy after you've been struggling for five hours and haven't been told there's a winning move, in all likelihood a sacrifice.

Jul-30-05  Giearth: Excellent puzzle! Good for you, chessgames.com. ;)
Jul-30-05  teme: I didn't get this puzzel.

< chessgames.com: He lists it as one the top 10 most fantastic moves ever played. > It was a very good move but very far from top 10. I dont think it would make it even in the top 100.

Jul-30-05  Shubes82: wow i got this. it was actually the first move i looked at and i knew it had to be the one because it deflected the pawn away from defending the oncoming black g-pawn. the white king wouldnt have enough time to catch up to it.
Jul-30-05  Catfriend: <Annie K> I challenged you on gameknot, and wrote my e-mail.
Jul-30-05  fgh: 0.2 seconds since I know it by heart :-)
Jul-30-05  black knight c6: The solution seems like a nicety. Is there any way black CANT win if he just gets ♙ for ♗ and then marches his king over? that just wins it a tiny bit quicker in my opinion, and is not a puzzle since a mediocre player should be able to win it anyway without any special skill (like me) my first impression of the puzzle was just that- win the bish and walkt he king over. nothing special, but one solved puzzle.
Jul-30-05  blackjacki2: What if 72. Kg7 instead of Kh7?
Jul-30-05  black knight c6: Ammendmant: The bish move e3 will come sooner or later (will have to) but it will be alot easier to see later. just gets white's pawn out the way. mediocre play and a little knowledge of sac for promotion gets around the bend anywhere in this game.
Jul-31-05  jahhaj: <black knight c6> 69...♗e3 is the only winning move. See earlier kibitzes on why 69...g4 or 69...a2 don't win.

One of Blacks problems is that the ending with ♔♗♙ vs ♔ is not won because the bishop is the wrong colour for the h file pawn.

Sep-26-24
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  GrahamClayton: 76...Qe3 eventually wins, but 76...Qg6 forces White to allow a quick mate after 77. e4 Qf7 78. e5 Qf8#.
Sep-26-24  phantasmagorium: White gets an IQP early on, but does it really have to fall? If 12. Bg5, for instance, would the d5 pawn still have fallen, or is it even worse than the text move?
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