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Siegbert Tarrasch vs David Graham Baird
Vienna (1898), Vienna AUH, rd 3, Jun-04
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Morphy Attack (C78)  ·  1-0



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  Once: <Al Wazir> Ooops. I may have been seduced by the dark side of the force and mistyped the line. Sorry about that. This is what Fritz offers as one line after 29...Rxd8

28. Bd2 Bxh3 29. Rd8 Rxd8 30. Qxd8+ Kg7 31. Qf6+ Kg8 32. e6 fxe6 33. Qd8+ Kf7 34. Qxc7+ Ke8 35. Qc8+ Kf7 36. Qd7+ Kg8 37. Kxh3

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The checks get the white queen onto the d file with tempo so that the Bd2 is protected white can grab the Bh3. During this sequence, black has to avoid parking his king on a black square or the Bd2 will move away from the black queen with check.

Does black have a perpetual here? Fritz doesn't think so, with an eval of +2.7.

But all of this is very tough to see from the puzzle diagram. All of this is Fritzie's hard work, not mine!

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  Jimfromprovidence: I saw 28 Bd2 but missed both 28...Bxh3 and 29 Rd8 (or 29 Rd4).

I did find an interesting wrinkle if black tries to exchange queens after 28 Bd2 Bxh3 29 Rd8 with 29…Qf5?! (hoping for 30 Qxf5 Bxf5).

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That line immediately loses to 30 Bh6!, with mate in 3 or less.

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For example, if 30...Qxf6 31 Rxf8#.

Feb-26-09  zb2cr: Well, I feel like I have redeemed myself after a failure yesterday. I easily saw 28. Bd2, Bxh3; 29. Rd8, Rxd8; 30. gxh3 and White is up a Bishop.
Feb-26-09  ZUGZWANG67: Hi <Needle>

Perfectly analysed.

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  playground player: Outta my league... but then they've all been out of my league, lately. I used to solve most of these puzzles, usually Monday thru Saturday with an occasional Sunday. Now I never get one right. What happened?
Feb-26-09  zb2cr: Hi <ruinme>,

You wrote: "If only black had played 31...Kg7 instead of Kh7. Then it looks like whites bishop could not have stepped in and white could have lost... Comments?"

How does White lose? He's a piece up, with all of Black's compensating Pawns far away from their Queening squares! After 32. ... Kg7; 33. Qd4 White is threatening a discovered check, Black has no checks and almost no moves for his Queen.

Please tell me how White loses in that situation?

Feb-26-09  skemup: difficult i chosed 28. text move but 29. Rd7 with 30. e6 but i probably missed somrthing
Feb-26-09  chopbox: I have read here about Reinfeld's suggestion of 30. e6! Does Black's response 30... Bd5 save Black's bacon?
Feb-26-09  YetAnotherAmateur: <chopbox> No, 30. ... Bd5 doesn't help in the least. (assuming game line up until 30. e6) 31. Rxf8+ Kxf8 (forced)
32. Qxf7#

29. ... Bd5 yields lines similar to my analysis of 29. ... Be6.

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  Jimfromprovidence: <kkshethin> <I thought of sacrificing Rook by 28. Rd6 cxd6 27. exd6 Qxc3. Can somebody throw light on it>

That's a clever thought if black accepts. You need to look at the position to see if you earn more than a draw if black refuses the sacrifice with 28...Qe4 or 28...h6.

Feb-26-09  SamAtoms1980: <Roemer: <to SamAtoms1980> I believe the right word for "to resign" is aufgeben. Ubergeben sounds more like vomiting to me.>

After 28 Bd2 Bxh3 29 Rd8 Bxg2 30 e6, I'd not be surprised if he did both.

Feb-26-09  ZUGZWANG67: < playground player: Outta my league... but then they've all been out of my league, lately. I used to solve most of these puzzles, usually Monday thru Saturday with an occasional Sunday. Now I never get one right. What happened?>

Hi Playgroundplayer;

To your defense, we must admit that each and every puzzles this week were a bit tricky.

For example, the monday one featured a position where White, already down a piece, could 'only' achieve re-balancing material + 1 pawn + the better position, as soon as one sees that Black could not avoid that from happening because of mate.

Then, we had the tuesday puzzle where one had to catch that there was no win but instead a drab draw for White, achievable through stalemate.

The puzzle we had been submitted yesterday was also uncommun in the sense that all White could really achieve was the gain of a pawn. The very reason why one might call that one a 'puzzle' (as for the one we had monday) is that for White to 'only' win a pawn, Black had to refuse some kind of a poisonnous gift, here, in the form of the WQ.

As for the one we have been strugling on today, there was that thin and subtle relation between 4 elements, namely, the a1/h8 and c1/h6 lines, the threat of advance of the e5-pawn, and the pin of the g2-pawn, that White had to find in order to really understand the nature of the position. And also, the fact that the 'combination' had to start with a rather quiet move (28.Bd2) was nothing to help.

So do not be too depressed (!) with your recent results. We' re all in a learning process. And sometimes, the misunderstanding may result in a better understanding, at some point or the other.

Personnaly, I found 28.Bd2 after spending some time over a1/h8, but totally missed 28. ...Bxh3(!), as I could not realise the importance of the WK to be unsafe. Thus, I learned that when one' s king is not safe, nothing holds.

Peace !

Feb-26-09  Pawnage: Like <YouRang>, I went with 28.Rd7, but figured it was wrong because it doesn't seem very forcing. At least I was right about being wrong! :)
Feb-26-09  TheaN: Thursday 26 February


Material: =

Candidates: <[Bd2]>

This seems a no-brainer... I think White mates in an extremely recognizable pattern with:


<28....Qxd2> the 'sacrifice', but neither move of Black seems to work.

<29.Bh6 Qg3† 30.Kxg3 Rd8 31.Qg7‡ 1-0>

<28....g5> the ONLY move to avoid this checkmate at all.

<29.Qxg5† Kh8 30.Qf6† Kg8 31.Rg3† Qg6 32.Rxg6 hxg6 > and White should win easily. Badly enough, upon opening the game I saw the last move was Bg5. Not that strange, because the game probably ended in the forced 33.Bd2 Kh7 34.Qh4† Kg8 35.Bg5, but I looked at this specifically due to the move shown. However, White is clearly winning after 32....hxg6. Time to check.


Feb-26-09  TheaN: OMG! Completely missed the defense! That's new for me. Usually I either miss everything including the starting move, miss most continuations, miss one minor continuation or do not play the best or get it completely right. But not <this>. Oh my... also, in my B variation I play Bd2 twice... White simply mates with 33.Bh6 ? 34.Qg7‡. Bad day.
Feb-26-09  ZUGZWANG67: Hi <TheaN>

Welcome in the club.

Feb-26-09  WhiteRook48: nice game by Tarrasch
Feb-26-09  patzer2: Tarrasch's 28. Bd2!! solves today's Thursday puzzle with a mating attack against Black's weakened castled position.

Black's surprise defensive reply 28...Bxh3! complicates things, as noted by <Once> in his amusing Star Wars analogy, because White must now proceed accurately to avoid losing.

Tarrasch's heroic followup 29. Rd8! puts him back on the winning track. With a little help from his opponent, Tarrasch manages to find a long and difficult winning continuation after 29...Bxg2 30. Kxg2. However, he missed the quick mate-in-three with 30. e6!

Indeed, after 29...Bxg2 30. Kxg2, if Black had tried 30...Qxb2! , he could have prolonged this contest considerably longer -- perhaps even with some practical drawing chances.

Feb-26-09  zb2cr: Following up my own reply to <ruinme>.

Crafty v20.14 opines that in case of 32. ... Kg7, White has the advantage by +3.88 after 33. Bc3, h4+; 34. Qxh4, Qd3+; 35. Kf2, Qc2+; 35. Ke3, Qc1+; 36. Kd4, Qd1+; 37. Kc5, Qd5+; 38. Kb4, a5+; 39. Ka3, Qc5+; 40. Kb3, Qb5+; 41. Kd2, Qe2+; 42. Bd2 and White has escaped the checks.

Feb-26-09  TheBish: Tarrasch vs D G Baird, 1898

White to play (28.?) "Medium" (2.5 stars)

This was fairly easy, once you see it!

28. Bd2! Threatening 29. Bh6 and 30. Qg7 mate, and there is no defence:

28...Qxd3 29. Bh6 and there is no defence against the mate.

28...Bd5 (hoping for 29. Bh6?? Qxg2#) 29. Rxd5! cxd5 30. Bh6, and the end is near.

Feb-26-09  TheBish: Wow, I didn't even consider the best defense, but it still loses. I guess I can claim partial credit, but that's all.
Feb-26-09  SamAtoms1980: <al wazir: Where's the win after 28. Bd2 Bxh3 29. Rd8 Rxd8 ?>

30 Qxd8+ Kg7 31 e6! is the decider as provided by my companion Fritz 6. The best Black can do is 31 ... fxe6 32 Bc3+ e5 33 Bxe5+ Kf7 34 Qf6+ Ke8 35 Kxh3 with a winning lead in material. On other defenses, say 31 ... Bxe6 or 32 ... Kf7, the lack of a flight square allows White's attack to force the win of Black's queen, or even the promotion of his e6-pawn to a new queen.

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  Pawn and Two: <alwazir & Once> Regarding your suggested line, 29...Rxd8 30.Qxd8+ Kg7, Fritz indicates White is winning in this line: (3.94) (26 ply) 31.e6 fxe6 32.Bc3+! e5 33.Bxe5+ Kf7 34.Qf6+ Ke8 35.Kxh3.

Tarrasch missed 30.e6!, with a mate in three. Instead, he made a serious error by playing 30.Kxg2??.

After 30.Kxg2??, Baird would have had very good drawing chances by playing 30...Qxb2!.

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Additional analysis is needed to better determine the drawing possibilities for this position, but here is Fritz's preferred line after 30...Qxb2!: (.33) (24 ply) 31.Rxf8+ Kxf8 32.Qd8+ Kg7 33.e6 fxe6 34.Qe7+ Kg8 35.Qxe6+ Kf8 36.Qc8+ Kg8, (.22) (21 ply) 38.Qd8+ Kf7 39.Qd7+ Kg8.

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  playground player: <Zugzwang67> Merci, Zugzwang--I was afraid it was my mind going.

You say you like to play the French Defense. I hate to play against it, so I've adopted the Polish Opening so I don't have to. But in your view, what's the toughest White response to the French? Have you ever faced Steinitz's 2.e5?

Feb-27-09  chopbox: <YetAnotherAmateur: No, 30. ... Bd5 doesn't help in the least. (assuming game line up until 30. e6) 31. Rxf8+ Kxf8 (forced) 32. Qxf7#>

Thanks for your quick and spot-on reply.

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