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May-31-08 | | deadlysin: johansen looks like a clown, i've met him before,
and hes funny |
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Feb-19-13 | | vinidivici: The ridiculous error makes this game a GOTD.
Feel sorry for Darryl. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | FSR: The pun is reminiscent of the infamous <Red Red Rhine>: R K Delaune vs F Rhine, 1997. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | FSR: <nutsaboutchess: ... Does anyone know of any other games like this?> I know of no games exactly like this. As far as similar games, I've heard of a game of Sir George Thomas's where he slid his rook to the eighth rank, inflicting mayhem - except he didn't slide it far enough. It stopped on the seventh rank, where it hung, inducing his immediate resignation. Then there's always L Palau vs S Kalabar, 1927. And who can forget Lindemann vs Echtermeyer, 1893, where White became a tragic victim of the version of the touch-move rule then in force? |
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Feb-19-13 | | SuperPatzer77: < deadlysin: johansen looks like a clown, i've met him before,
and hes funny >
Really???
LOL LOL
He should've checked his scoresheet and then would have put his queen back correctly. Poor Darryl. SuperPatzer77 |
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Feb-19-13 | | erimiro1: In one word - NO!!! In 2 words - Oh no. |
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Feb-19-13 | | Abdel Irada: File under "Games decided by tournament director reluctantly ceding point to someone triumphantly yelling 'Touch-move!' while gleefully waving a hung piece about." |
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Feb-19-13
 | | al wazir: It would be interesting to know the exact sequence of events. Since Johansen thought he was replacing the ♕ where it had been previously, he would not have hit his clock. Did Rogers then politely (or gleefully) point out the fact of the matter to him? Or did he simply play 28...Rxb5 without waiting for Johansen to hit the clock? Or did he have to call for the TD in order to claim his point? |
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Feb-19-13 | | PaulLovric: what are the exact rules regarding touching a "figure"/"piece" |
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Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: This "pun" requires research in order to identify the vagaries of the connotation, which is murky at best, no matter what language it originated from First, lets define 'scarlet':
noun 1. a bright-red color inclining toward orange
adjective 4. flagrantly offensive: Their sins were scarlet Second, lets analyze the phrase 'Scarlet Johansen'; This obviously refers to American born actress, Scarlett Johansson, who from what I can tell, doesn't play chess and spells both her first and last name differently than Darryl Johansen, who does play chess Third, lets look at what happened in the game. From the comments: "Johansen moved his queen to c6, keeping his hand on the piece, but decided to think about the move some more and so put the queen back. The only problem was that he put the queen back on b5 instead of b6" This whole sequence seems suspect since it implies that its OK to pick up one's piece(s), check out various squares, and even return the piece(s) to the original square while one continues his/her analysis, all in the middle of a tournament game!? This is not to be confused with the process or act of "J'adoube" where one adjusts a piece within its square, so everything looks neat and tidy. In conclusion: We can translate the two definitions of scarlet and apply them to Johansen and arrive at (1) Red Johansen or (2) Offensive Johansen For (1) to be funny, we'd have to be familiar with the term 'red in the face', which I'm assuming the reference would then be that Johansen was 'red in the face' after realizing his error For (2) to be funny, we would have to assume that moving one's pieces around is offensive to the opponent, if not an outright breach of chess rules, or at the very least, etiquette. Actually in this case, both apply since his offensive actions and subsequent error, left him red in the face. I guess... But what about Scarlett Johansson? Ideally, she would've been the culprit in this game, allowing us to say "Scarlett's actions were scarlet in the extreme, while the subsequent error left her red in the face" Except she doesn't play chess |
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Feb-19-13 | | Abdel Irada: On the other hand, <morfishine>, have you looked at Scarlett Johansson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarle...) lately? And on that note, I have now devised White's perfect excuse: At just the wrong moment in the game, Scarlett wandered past. By the time his eyes returned to the board, his queen was on b5 and for some unaccountable reason his opponent was shrieking "Touch-move!" |
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Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: <Abdel Irada> I was thinking that he was dreaming about her... <FSR> Very humble of you to display your Queen loss. Hey, lets have a contest to see who lost their Queen in the most outrageous fashion? I'm reminded of when my brother was playing a 2-min game as Black and reached this position:
 click for larger viewHere, Black played the incredible 4...Bxd1!!! snaring the White Queen. The White player exclaimed "Did you see that, he just took my Queen! How did I miss that?" I thought to myself "Yes, he stole your Queen illegally"; and when he tipped his King, it was too late for him to claim the error. So I told him "He captured your Queen on a white square with his DSB you dummy!" |
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Feb-19-13 | | blue wave: <morfishine> Thats really funny! I just burst out laughing.:-) |
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Feb-19-13 | | BabsonTask: @morfishine
"This whole sequence seems suspect since it implies that its OK to pick up one's piece(s), check out various squares, and even return the piece(s) to the original square while one continues his/her analysis, all in the middle of a tournament game!?"It's absolutely OK and happens quite often. Having picked up the piece, you are, of course, obligated to move it, but you can return it to its original square if you suddenly find a need to rethink its destination. |
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Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: <blue wave> After that, I had to keep a close eye on my brother at lightning chess. He was real slick and fast: all in one motion, one hand would remove the captured piece, slam down his piece, then remove the captured piece, in a blink of an eye <BabsonTask> Thanks, thats the way I understood it too. Have you ever heard of anyone taking advantage of this by checking all squares until the best location is found? Sounds like a loop hole, but I guess there's no real way of improving it other than having to move the piece touched |
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Feb-19-13
 | | kevin86: Wouldn't it be funny,if after the queen "move" that black's cell phone had gone off? |
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Feb-19-13
 | | mistermac: mistermac: I have only pleasant comments about Johansen, as he defeated me in a simul with an opening trap in the Sicilian. I grabbed a proffered pawn just to see what would happen and promply lost a Knight.
This trap afterward got me an undeserved reputation as a trappy player, as a result of me obtaining my only ever victory against a sober opponent 500 points ahead of me in rating. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | FSR: <morfishine: ... Hey, lets have a contest to see who lost their Queen in the most outrageous fashion?> Your brother's story is hard to top. Over 35 years ago I had a tournament game where I was White in a Richter-Rauzer and completely crushing my opponent. He had a knight on c6 that was attacking my queen on d4, except that it couldn't take my queen because I had a bishop on b5 that was pinning it against his king on e8. He played ...Kd8, which unpinned his knight. I then touched my light-squared bishop, seeing a straightforward line, starting with Bxc6, that reached a dead-won ending. Then I hesitated, took my hand off my bishop, thought for 20 minutes - and played another move with it. Of course he took my queen, which hadn't occurred to me, since it was so ingrained in my mind that his knight was pinned and couldn't move. One of my most traumatic chess experiences. |
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Feb-19-13
 | | Check It Out: <FSR> In that case your opponent wasn't eager to enforce the "touch-move" rule I take it. So, a few questions:
One, in <morfishine>'s brother's case, if that had been a tournament game would the illegal move stand and the resignation be the outcome? Or would the illegal move cancel the resignation? If that's the case, then would the illegal move be retracted and the game reset with black to move? Two, If "touch-move" is the rule in a tournament game, couldn't you have insisted on it since you touched your Bishop? That's probably a silly question, but that's what rule books are for. |
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Feb-19-13 | | morfishine: <Check It Out> Good Question; Obviously in this case, its a casual atmosphere, waiters and bartenders getting together late at night playing blitz chess. Its hard to imagine it happening in an actual tournament game since the opposing party would know the position and most moves are not made quickly like in the quick 'flim-flam' manner that my brother did. But thats a good question since it reminds me of when Korchnoi accidentally made an illegal move in a tournament; He moved his King to f8 then back to e8, then subsequently castled!! His opponent didn't notice; I believe Korchnoi had to forfeit the game, but I'm not sure. |
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Feb-20-13
 | | FSR: <Check It Out> I had touched the bishop, and I moved it, consistent with the touch-move rule. I must not have touched his knight (unfortunately), or I would have had to take it. |
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Feb-20-13
 | | FSR: <morfishine> I have never heard that story about Korchnoi. Wolfgang Heidenfeld famously castled twice in one game: Heidenfeld - Kerins, Dublin 1973
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Be3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.f4 c5 6.c3 Nc6 7.Nf3 Qb6 8.Qd2 c4 9.Be2 Na5 10.O-O f5 11.Ng5 Be7 12.g4 Bxg5 13.fxg5 Nf8 14.gxf5 exf5 15.Bf3 Be6 16.Qg2 O-O-O 17.Na3 Ng6 18.Qd2 f4 19.Bf2 Bh3 20.Rfb1 Bf5 21.Nc2 h6 22.gxh6 Rxh6 23.Nb4 Qe6 24.Qe2 Ne7 25.b3 Qg6+ 26.Kf1 Bxb1 27.bxc4 dxc4 28.Qb2 Bd3+ 29.Ke1 Be4 30.Qe2 Bxf3 31.Qxf3 Rxh2 32.d5 Qf5 33.O-O-O Rh3 34.Qe2 Rxc3+ 35.Kb2 Rh3 36.d6 Nec6 37.Nxc6 Nxc6 38.e6 Qe5+ 39.Qxe5 Nxe5 40.d7+ Nxd7 0-1 http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/records/ Somehow neither he nor his opponent realized it at the time. |
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Feb-20-13 | | morfishine: <FSR> I'll google around and try to retrieve the game. I believe I read about it an old CL in the mid 80's |
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Feb-20-13 | | talsqueen: this seems very implausible! anyway can someone explain the one square a move journey the White queen makes from move 15. to 17.? |
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Aug-24-21
 | | GrahamClayton: Think first, move second. |
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