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NN vs W Curran
Philadelphia (1876)
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  0-1



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Aug-09-04  themindset: sunday will have to be one heck of a tough one.
Aug-09-04  Dick Brain: <> Not yet a hard problem, it's still a follow the nose win because the first thing everybody should be looking at are *sacrifices* that give *check* in problems. If there is more than one sacrifice, you must look at the largest material sacrifice first. Anyone who followed those principles should have hit the mate in three on the first variarion analyzed since there is only one move that sacrifices a piece with check and then Bf3+ is the only check and then there are two mates in one.
Aug-09-04  Saruman: I solved this problem in 2 seconds...
Aug-09-04  alexandrovm: 16. ... Rxh3 gxh3 (only move) 17. Bf3+ kh2 (only move) 18. Bg3++, it's a mate
Aug-09-04  white pawn: Not all of us have evil wizard powers <Saruman>...
Aug-09-04  Stonewaller2: back of the envelope stuff: after 15. ♔f1 ♘g3+ 16. ♔e1 ♘fxe4 17. dxe4 ♘xe4 18. hxg4 ♗xf2+ 19. ♕xf2 ♘xf2 20. ♔xf2 ♖xd8 Black, with ♖ vs. two minor pieces, may be for choice; but at least White doesn't lose outright as with 15. ♔h1.
Aug-09-04  Shadout Mapes: Not so, <Stonewaller2>, in your line 18.Qd5 wins for white.
Aug-09-04  Chesspatch: <minimax> yeah, I saw what you saw and was giving myself a pat on the back until I read the annotations... Curran's version is shorter by 1 move. <cu8sfan> yea, I was up when Alekhine's game was put up... I had to use a comp. to fig. out what to do after Kg6
Aug-09-04  minimaxing: <> Have you thought about including a Puzzle of the Day archive?
Aug-09-04  Stonewaller2: <Mapes> hm. how about 18. ... ♗xf2+ 19. ♔f1 (forced), threatening ... ♖xh3?
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  cu8sfan: <minimaxing> It's called "Tactics Archive", members only.

It would be a good idea to put a date to these puzzles like it was introduced to the game of the day. I suppose it's a bit more difficult than with the game of the day as the move and the side to play should be recorded, too.

Aug-09-04  lnlver: What's the story behind this game? Was it from a match by Curran against people from Michigan?

If so, why was it played in Pennsylvania? Maybe it was played via telegraph.

Premium Chessgames Member The assumption is that it's a player named Michigan, but we're not really sure.

I'm looking over the problems for the rest of the week. There are some really devious ones coming up, starting tomorrow.

For the people who seldom get our homepage puzzles: our advice is to try to figure it out for 10 or 15 minutes, if you still can't get it, then go ahead and look at the answer. Even if you don't solve any of them it's good practice just to try. Also, we are working behind-the-scenes on some new features aimed at beginners, including a special section of very simple problems which would all be classified as "Monday" puzzles (or easier).

Aug-09-04  drcdwil: For some reason, Rxh3+ was the first move I looked at so it didn't seem too hard for a Monday.
Aug-09-04  Shah Mat: < Nickisimo > thats a great book...i'm working through it myself.
Aug-09-04  aw1988: Excuse me, why not simply Ng3+ Kh2 Nf1+ forking king and queen?
Aug-09-04  drcdwil: Because mate in three is better than winning a queen.
Aug-09-04  acirce: <Ng3+ Kh2 Nf1+ forking king and queen> doesn't even win, leads to approximate material equality. Black is already queen down.
Aug-09-04  Calculoso: <acirce> Three minors and two rooks (for black) vs. two minors and one rook (for white). That puts white at a 1-major, 1-minor deficit (black can move the rook along the h-file to keep the h-pawn pinned.
Aug-09-04  DerManoMann: I know just forking the queen doesn't win, but wouldn't Ng3+ Kh2 Nf1+ Kh1 Rxh3+ gxh3 Bf3 be mate, too? At least that is what I calculated...
Aug-09-04  amate42day: I also saw the 16...ng3+ 17, Kh2 Nf1+ 18, Kh1 Rxh3 19, gxh3 Bf3 mate. Although I don't think I would have found the correct solution if I'd stayed there all night!
Aug-09-04  drcdwil: That move sequence works as well though one move longer. I'd take that over the board! For problem solution one usually tries to find the most expedious variation. And slightly prettier as well.
Aug-09-04  drcdwil: There is an aesthetic symmetry to mating at g1 instead of g3!
Aug-09-04  Calchexas: <drcdwil> Really? The only thing about the mate on g1 to me is that it seems to thumb its nose at Black, like "See what happens when you don't develop your Knight?!"
Aug-09-04  kolobok: This one was the most easiest of all sundays puzzles it took me about 6 seconds to solve it since similar tactic puzzles containes a chessmaster 9000 too easy please give usa challenging puzzles or i will be bored to solve them so easy and fast
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