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NN vs W Curran
Philadelphia (1876)
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  0-1



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Aug-09-04  EXIDE: I did not see Rh3+
However I think after 16. ...,Ng3+,
17. Kh2, Nf1+ : 18. Kh1,NxQ:19 NxR,NxB
20 PxN,Bh5 Black should win. I guess I was still hung up on last weeks knight forks.
Aug-09-04  drcdwil: <Calchexas> Yes, that rook would have been handy on the back rank.
Aug-09-04  Tiamat: I'll have to say this was kind of easy, I as well saw it quickly, but it is an interesting game none the less.
Aug-10-04  Shadout Mapes: <Stonewaller> 15.Kf1 Ng3+ 16.Ke1 Nfxe4 17.dxe4 Nxe4 18.Qd5

18...Bxf2+ (you're right, this is probably best) 19.Kf1 and here, if 19...Rxh3, white just plays 20.Qxe4 and every black piece is hanging, so black is going to lose tons of material in addition to what he's already sacrificed. Another move that looks good is 19...Rf8, but 20.Nf7 (Qxe4 would probably also win) and black can't keep the attack going.

In other words, black should've played 13...Ne2+ with good chances in an unbalanced position.

Aug-10-04  acirce: <Calculoso: <acirce> Three minors and two rooks (for black) vs. two minors and one rook (for white). That puts white at a 1-major, 1-minor deficit (black can move the rook along the h-file to keep the h-pawn pinned.> After Nxd2 White captures one of black's rooks with Nxh8. That leaves one left. Then follows for example Nxc4 dxc4. Now count the pieces again.
Aug-10-04  Stonewaller2: <Mapes> after seeing your cogent analysis I really must agree, that's even what I might have possibly done.

I also agree with <drcdwil>, the mate on g1 is prettier. But I especially like the end of the line, one move longer than the text, beginning 16. ... ♘g3+. The ♘f1, ♗f2 and f3 line up nicely, each covering one of the White ♔'s escape squares.

Sep-16-04  athyn: If you were white, what would your 16th move have been? I can think of at least one possible move, but I am wondering if anyone else will see it.
Sep-16-04  clocked: do you mean 16.Qg5 as <Shadout Mapes> pointed out on Page 1?
Sep-16-04  athyn: <clocked> that was my first thought, but I was thinking ♘c3 and realized that wouldn't have prevented mate on the last move, because there was an alternate, 18....♗g3

What about ♕xe2 which I see was also discussed?

Mar-16-05  trosky: the best move is 13...Ne2+ : after after 14.Qe2 Be2 15.Ne6 Bf1 16.Nc5 bc5 17.Kf1 Rf8 black are better,and in the line 16.Nc7 Kd7 17.Na8 Be2 I wish to add 18.Nc3 Bf2 19.Kh1 Rh3 20.gh3 Bf3++
Jan-23-08  jovack: Curran needs to learn the valuable lesson of giving up material to better your position.... especially when you are up material.
Jan-23-08  rgr459: Curran must have been an Ohioan to put that kind of whipping on Michigan
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  OhioChessFan: Drive, drive on down the field.
Men of the Scarlet and Gray.
Don't let them through that line.
You've got to win this game today.
Smash through to victory.
We'll cheer you as you go.
Our honor defend,
We will fight to the end,
For O.......hi.....o!
Nov-18-10  sevenseaman: A cavalry charge indeed!
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  Phony Benoni: Oh, come on. Haven't Michigan fans suffered enough?
Dec-03-13  lost in space: 16...Rxh3+17. gxh3 (only move) Bf3+ 18. Kh2 (only move) Bg3# or Bg1#

My only issue with this puzzle was to not forget that there is a Ph3, so that the king can not escape with 19. Kh3

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  Phony Benoni: If you can use Google Books, here is an account of the game:

The game is presented as having been played during the Centennial Exhibition in Philadelphia by Mr. Curran against "...a gentleman all the way from Michigan." A few notes:

<9.Nxg5>: "The gentleman all the way from Michigan begins to feel that he has not made the trip in vain."

<11.Nxd8><: "How absurd, said the gentleman all the way from Michigan, of course I take his queen."

<18...Bg1#>: "And Mr. Curran was about to make some remark, when, looking across the table, he saw that his late advesary was already on the road back to Michigan."

Dec-03-13  Patriot: 16...Rxh3+ 17.gxh3 Bf3+ 18.Kh2 Bg3# - That's pretty amazing!
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  patzer2: I suppose those of us who saw the four move mate 16... Ng3+ 17. Kh2 Nf1+ 18. Kh1 Rxh3+ 19. gxh3 Bf3# don't get extra credit for today's Tuesday puzzle solution.
Dec-03-13  YGraupera: I almost see Curran, with his bishop on the air, saying: do you prefer g1 or g3?
Dec-03-13  YGraupera: In fact, as Phony Benoni says Michigan wasn't there!
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: As frequently happens in the Italian Game, too-early castling by White invites an immediate pawn storm and piece deluge. You will find many similar games in the database, some of which took place in this millennium. After 4.0-0?! White can only hope for 4...Nf6?! (d6!), allowing the Deutz Gambit 5.d4, which succeeded in Movsesian vs Adams, 2009.
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  FSR: 16...Rxh3+ 17.gxh3 Bf3+ 18.Kh2 and now Black has a difficult choice between 18...Bg3# and 18...Bg1#.
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  FSR: Both players played feebly. Of course 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bh4? is bad for White, and he's lost after 9.Nxg5? h4! But instead of 13...gxf2+?, correct is 13...Ne2+ forcing 14.Qxe2, for if 14.Kh1, Rxh3+ 15.gxh3 Bf3#. In the game continuation, White should have played 15.Kf1, winning, rather than 15.Kh1??
Dec-03-13  Nullifidian: 16... ♖xh3+ 17. ♙gxh3 ♗f3+ 18. ♔h2 ♗g1/g3#
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