| Jun-13-04 | | MatrixManNe0: Whoot! KGA with Bc4! That's my type of game!
Ahem... Black shouldn't have boxed in the queen so early. An easy deficiency to exploit for white. Black moved the queen 2/7 of the entire game! That's twice as much as any other piece moved!! 27. Qb3! was great, defending the king, and creating a fork (knight and rook!). |
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| Jun-14-04 | | square dance: why play 3.Bc4 instead of 3.Nf3? i realize its theory, but im confused as to why 3.Nf3 is not standard considering the king ends up on f1 if not for this move. does it have to do with the 3...g5 response? |
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Jun-14-04
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| Jun-14-04 | | square dance: <sneaky> thank you! so i guess it is more of a matter of staying away from the beaten path than anything else. ok, i just wanted to know if i was playing an inferior move. |
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| Jun-14-04 | | MatrixManNe0: Not only that, but the Bc4 brings the queen away after Qh4+ Kf1 followed by Nf3, with gain of tempo... or that's how I use it, at least... |
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| Jun-15-04 | | shr0pshire: I think that by move 10 the game is equal. Even though white has lost the ability to castle, his king is safe. Furthermore, black's queen is left on an awkward square. By move 11 all of white's pieces are in the attack, for an all out king side attack, which makes this very sharp since white's king is in the middle of this attack. Because of the poor position of black's queen, it gets kicked around, as white gains tempo and position of his pieces in the 12-15 moves. by move 18 black is already getting overwhelmed, and needs to relieve some of the pressure. Black has a knight and rook not involved in the attack, while all of white's pieces are involved in the attack. Impressive and exciting play by Ivanchuck. Well done! |
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| Jun-15-04 | | PinkPanther: Qh4+ isn't the right move here anyway. You're supposed to play something like Nf6 then c6 and d5 to chip away at the white center. |
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| Jul-26-04 | | mack: <why play 3.Bc4 instead of 3.Nf3?> Bronstein said that if you want a draw, you play Nf3, if you want to win, Bc4 |
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Jul-26-04
 | | IMlday: 5.d4!? improves on 5.Nc3 Be6 6.Qe2 in Fischer-Evans, 1964. With 5.d4 and 6.Qd3 the tactics with Qb3 forking e6 and b7 are strong. I don't think Black equalized. |
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| Jul-26-04 | | Everett: Mack, an excellent source you site there. Bronstein is an authority. If I ever played the KGA, Bc4 would be the way. |
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| Jul-26-04 | | Akavall: Morozevich played 3.Nf3 a good bit of times, though he played 3.Bc4 as well. After 3.Bc4 d5 doesn't seem as good(though still possible, of course) as after 3.Nf3. |
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| Aug-14-04 | | paultopia: The King's Gambit lives! Ha! |
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| Feb-03-05 | | Poisonpawns: This is an interseting Kings gambit with d4 and Qd3.Does anyone know where there is analysis posted? 3..Qh4+ does seem a bit primitive also by the way.In that the King is safe and white gains tempi on the queens misplacement. |
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| Jul-16-05 | | syefah: KG is just a matter to win or lose |
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| Jul-16-05 | | FinKing: I think 3.Bc4 is not as good as 3.Nf3, because the idea behind 3.Bc4 is to attack on f7. This idea is not correct. White can´t get enough pressure to f7, and as we know, an attack without proper material is doomed. So, my opinion is, that move 3.Nf3 is better than 3.Bc4. |
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| Jul-16-05 | | hintza: <FinKing> The idea of attacking f7 is not correct?! It's one of the key ideas in the King's Gambit. The f-file is opened after ...exf4, and after 0-0 White hopes to exploit Black's weakest point f7 with moves like Bc4 and Ne5/Ng5. That is why Fischer's defence, 3.Nf3 d6, is so solid; White can no longer play Ne5 which would have put more pressure on f7. |
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| Jul-16-05 | | FinKing: you can be right, because what I just wrote was Retis analyses, so it can be a bit old. But reti knew about f-file and that stuff, so it makes the thing a bit funny. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | taljechin: <FinKing> 3.Bc4 has more than one point. Pressure on f7 is common in most open games, in one form or another. Anyway, here's some other points with 3.Bc4 instead of 3.Nf3: 1)it allows Ng1 to also use e2 later in the game.
2)it's much harder for black to hang on to pawn-f4 with g7-g5 as h4 is quite strong when g5-g4 doesn't hit a knight on f3. 3)if black plays 3...d5 white can take with the bishop, keeping the a2-g8 diagonal open (3.Nf3 d5 4.exd5 is common) - sure play can transpose to 3.Nf3 d5 anyway, but white has more options than after 3.Nf3... 4)Allowing Qh4+ and Kf1 unbalances the game, (without the risks involved with 3.Nc3 Qh4+ 4.Ke2). Black will have to be very careful not to suddenly end up much worse. |
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| Jun-11-06 | | seven trumpets: 6...Nd7 (Opening Explorer) i believe black might have lost his drawing chances with 19...c5-he might have held on with 19...g5 20.Ne2 Qg6 21.a4 a5 22.b3 = white would have been very strong with 19.Qb3 c5 20.Qxe6+ Qxe6 21.Nxe6 Rf6 22.Nf4 cxd4 23.Nxd4 Rc8 24.c3 Bd8 25.Rhf1 Nc4 26.Nd5 Rxf1 27.Rxf1 Bg5 28.Rf5 Ne3+ 29.Nxe3 Bxe3  |
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| Jun-12-06 | | KingG: It's a shame Ivanchuk doesn't play the King's Gambit more often. According to this database, he's played it only twice, but won on both occasions:
Ivanchuk vs Piket, 1997 was the first game he played it in. |
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| Oct-23-07 | | whiteshark: Agree with <seven trumpets> on 19.Qb3 and 19...g5. After <19...c5? <20.Nh2>> looks like a strong move. Black is nearly forced to to sacrify the exchange without compensation by playing <20...Rxf4 21.Rxf4> 
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