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Raymond Keene vs Peter C Griffiths
British U-18 Championship (1964), Whitby
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch. Closed Variation Main Line (E89)  ·  1-0



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Dec-30-04  darook: cool game!
A great example of how to crack the KID.
Dec-30-04  e4Newman: Amazingly clear annotation.
Mar-14-05  Zaius: Could someone explain to me Keene's commentary on his 17th move? Doesn't 18...Bf7 reply to Be6+ adequately?
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  Eric Schiller: <zaius> afer 19.Nxf7, Black recaptures and then the knight will fall.
Oct-12-05  aw1988: <ray keene> Did you play g4 from - I believe, Portisch?
Oct-12-05  hayton3: Life Master AJ would benefit from reviewing and understanding the way this game is interestingly and instructively annotated.
Oct-13-05  darook: Good idea in theory <hayton3>, but I'm afraid this game is far beyond AJ's level of chess comperhension.

The chess of GM Keene is many levels higher than AJ will ever dream to be.

AJ himself will admit it one day whem his pride will permit him to do so.

Oct-13-05  shaikh123: 24 rxc7 was awesome.
Oct-13-05  aw1988: <hayton3> Once again an unprovoked attack. Who's the real ass here?
Oct-13-05  hayton3: <aw1988> LOL - Don't be ridiculous. These are positive comments I made - unless you want to put a cynical twist on them
Oct-13-05  aw1988: I do, considering the person I'm talking to.
Oct-13-05  hayton3: <aw1988> I'm not a good person to pick a fight with - lighten up and recognise we can all learn from how this game was intructively annotated for the benefit of all.
Oct-13-05  aw1988: I do recognize it. I also recognize AJ Goldsby's work, which you apparently do not in the extremeity region.
Oct-13-05  Averageguy: I agree with h3. LMAJ annotates his games well, but like many other kibitzers have said it is often hard to navigate as it becomes a twisting maze of symbols and [diagram?]s. While this format often appeals to "informants children" (people happy to simply look at endless realms of moves an analysis), for the vast majority, it can get quite tiresom. I think that LMAJ could learn a lesson from how this game is clearly and beautiflly annotated, very easy to follow and keep up with while getting the main points across. LMAJ, I think your site could be even better if the game pages were structured a little better and ou gave more verbal explanation to go with the many variations. <hayton3>What did you think of the morra gambit page I gave the link to on A J Goldsby's page?
Oct-13-05  hayton3: <Averageguy> Very good - I'd seen this analysis elsewhere on the net before. Probably the clearest explanation I've ever come across as regards the ideas behind an opening.
Oct-13-05  hayton3: <aw1988> You're right - I do not consider Goldsby's work to be very good. The layout is awful. If you manage to get past the poor presentation you then have to contend with the Goldsby ego. He seems more intent on self-promotion rather than shedding light on this beautiful game. If you get past his ego then you have to contend with his opinionated view of the chess world.

That's why I defintely don't recommend his website to anyone let alone beginners. And I certainly don't expect anyone of your calibre running to his defence when he is not even being 'unprovokingly attacked'.

Oct-13-05  aw1988: Yes, I do admit that his format is a tad clumsy. I just grow weary of people and place them with a reputation... many of your comments have been about AJ Goldsby, we both know- so I thought this was another of those. Sorry.
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  ray keene: thanks for all the comments-the idea of g4 with a general trade to open up lines i saw in a game botvinnik v lieberzon moscow 1964-it is probably in the database
Oct-13-05  aw1988: <ray keene> Ah. I'm tearing my hair out trying to figure out who came up with the 11. g4 anti-KID. Gligoric? Portisch..? Either one of those two.
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  ray keene: do you mean as in tal gligoric candidates 1959 or pachman gligoric 1958? also a botvinnik v tal game from 1960
Oct-13-05  aw1988: None of those. g4 takes place with a black pawn on f5. I'll try and see if I can get an example...
Oct-13-05  aw1988: <ray keene> Repertoire Explorer: Lajos Portisch (white)
Oct-14-05  Averageguy: I actually like LMAJ's website, if he would take more care to the layout it would be even better. It's a shame, since below all those !!(maybe!!!/!!!!) and [diagram?]s, there lies true quality in which the devoted chess student would find gold to mine.
Oct-14-05  Stevens: Nice game Ray! And in the U-18 championshps too.
Sep-29-10  sevenseaman: Keen shows a high degree of clarity in thought and execution. d5 generally serves as his bulwark. The 24. R for N exchange sac is well-timed and gives him control over the strategic e6 vantage point. The second R offer is equally poisoned.

A very enjoyable chess game.

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