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Boris T Vladimirov vs Zbigniew Doda
Leningrad, U.S.S.R. (1967)
Benoni Defense: Four Pawns Attack. Main Line (A69)  ·  1-0

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Jun-01-12  Patriot: Material is even.

Black threatens 24...Re1+.

There are so many checks but the one I like the best is <24.Qg5+> because of it's trappy nature (24...Bxg5 25.Rf8#).

A) 24...Kh8 25.Bg7+

A.1) 25...Bxg7 26.Qd8+ and mate in 2

A.2) 25...Kg8 26.Bxf6+

B) 24...Kf7 25.Rxf6+ Rxf6 26.Qg7+ Ke6 27.Qe7+ Kf5 28.Qe4#

Jun-01-12  TimothyLucasJaeger: The g-file checks seem to lead to nothing. 24 Rg5+ and or 24 Qg4+ can be met by 24 ... Kh8 when 25 Bg7+ Bxg7 leaves white with nothing, since his queen can't get to the last rank.

24 Qg5+ spoils the party, though. Now 24 ... Bxg5 runs into 25 Rf8#, while 24 ... Kh8 succumbs to 25 Bg7+ Bxg7 26 Qd8+ and mate soon to follow.

Black's only try is 24 ... Kf7, but here white has 25 Rxf6+ (not 25 Qg7+ Ke8 26 d7+ Kd8 with no clear follow-up) Ke8 ( 26 ... Rxf6 27 Qg7+ Ke6 28 Qe7+ Kf5 29 Qe4 is mate) 26 Rxe6+ Kd7 27 Qe7+ Kc6 28 Qc7#.

This puzzle was made simpler because white had no option to defend so he had to make a go of it or give up altogether.

Jun-01-12  CHESSTTCAMPS: Small errors in lines C, D (first paren) - unless # can be extended to mean # in 3!
Jun-01-12  sevenseaman: Its a funny funny world. English is a fast evolving language and we Indians love to use it whatever the proficiency. At times even simple connotations of a word can cause problems w/o our having to attach too many nuances to it.

I am a civil engineer by trade and in the early 80s I was posted in a god-forsaken place somewhere in central India. We mostly lived as forced bachelors but an exception was made in the case of a young engineer who had got newly married.

He was a mechanical engineer and was working on a project involving lifting of heavy loads. Those days cellphones were unheard of. Land line also used to be bit of a privilege.

One day this young engineer came to my room. He wanted to call home. I went out into the verandah. There wasn't much of a conversation and I saw him white-faced with terror as he came out.

'Whatever happened'? "I do not know my father was furious and wouldn't talk to me; says such matters are not discussed on the telephone and he is coming over tomorrow."

Sure enough the next day both worried parents were there, making it from a 1000 km or so.

They were closeted with the young couple for some time but when they came out to say a polite hello to their son's colleagues they seemed quite happy and so were the young couple.

It took some coaxing on my part to prise out the mystery. After a lot of hesitation the young engineer broke into a genuine smile.

"You see I was working on the jig ( trying to make a kind of a stationary fork-lift). I was having a problem and my dad being an engineer too I asked for his advice".

I was amused and confused. That cannot have been a reason for all this hassle and said as much.

Here the young man broke out into uncontrolled mirth and laughter. "You see I told my father I was having an erection problem".

No wonder the old man refused any further discussion. Ever since I have always maintained 'be wary of a foreigner's language'.

Jun-01-12  sevenseaman: <poszvald> Not strictly but allow one tempo check to Black Q and his 'd' P advances menacingly to d2.
Jun-01-12
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  chrisowen: Theres a moose loose about this h5 oose queen g5 re at high calibre

game rote am thinking it is bind good 24.qg5+ in slide across if bxg5

then rf8 mate in one so a king h8 bg7+ bxg7 qd8+ or draft in kingf7

eminate rf6+ and queen goes round the houses to mate at e4 why in hug

rookxf5+ king should have sidestepped in line to g7 a dress down in

gxf5 and white is level with plenty of chaces for black to go wrong in

fact white is ahead hqu5 after kingf8 delight wind rf1 re6 and maten

in nine the rout black is taking slightly shorter winds up getting

mated in four lowly incase brother guess in f5 the soft spot black.

Jun-01-12
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  kevin86: Oops! My move was Rxf6,of course countered by Re1+ and mate next!

So embarrassed.

Jun-01-12
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  Chessdreamer: probably Black did not get mated & resigned after 27.Qe4+ 1-0 (27..Kf5 28.Qe4#).
Jun-01-12  gars: <once>: I remember "dope" as your grandfather did, which is no surprise, because I am sixty-five;

<sevenseaman>: concerning the pun on today's game, it happens that in Portuguese (my mother language, I am from Brazil) the phrase "to walk in a tight rope" is translated into "dançar na corda bamba", which translated back into English is "to dance in a loose rope". Strange, of course, but true.

Jun-01-12
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  Once: <gars> "to dance in a loose rope" ... that is absolutely beautiful!
Jun-01-12  dragon player: Black is threathing a backrank mate, so you have to give check. This move is a really nice one:

24.Qg5+ Kf7

If 24...Bxg5 25.Rf8#, if 24...Kh8 25.Bg7+ Bxg7 (25...Kg8 26.Bxf6+) 26.Qd8+ Re8 27.Bf8 Qxf8#.

25.Rxf6+ Rxf6

what else?

26.Qg7+ Ke6

26...Ke6 27.Qe7#

27.Qe7+ Kf5
28.Qe4#

Time to check.

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Exactly right.

4/5

Jun-01-12  KingV93: I did not find this one 'difficult'...must be my lucky day today, better buy a lottery ticket =D
Jun-01-12  gars: <once> every language has its tricks; a man is a human being, right? But a man-of war is a war ship. When one tries to translate it, things can be very funny: here in Rio de Janeiro there is a borough whose name is BOTAFOGO. Translate it into English and you have "Set Fire", which is ridiculous. Another example: in Portuguese, "meter o pé na jaca" means to drink too much and do all the stupid things drunken people do. Put it into English and you have "to put the foot into the jack fruit", which makes no sense at all!
Jun-01-12  BOSTER: <Patriot> <Material is even>.

Are you sure?

Because the black has the threat Re1 mate white should play without losing any tempo. My first try was 24.Qg5+ Kf7 (if Bxg5 Rf8#) 25.Qg7+ Ke8 and it looks like black king can escape.

if 24...Kh8 25.Bg7+ Bxg7 26.Qd8+ and white win.

if 24...Kh8 25.Bg7+ Kg8 26.Bxf6 and white win.

But after 24.Qg5+ Kf7 25.Rxf6+ Rxf6 26.Qg7+

black king begin an African dance around own rook, describing the precise orbit like sputnik 26...Ke6 27.Qe7+ Kf5 28.Qe4#.

Jun-01-12  ruzon: <David2009: The EGT lasts nine moves, defending with 24...Kh8 25.Bg7+ Kg8 26.Bxf6+ Kf7 27.Be7+ Rf6 28.Qxf6+ Ke8 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.Bf8+ Kd8 31.Qe7+ Kc8 32.Qe8#. Very pleasant problem.>

Actually, the EGT lasts only 7 moves, try 27.Qg7+ Ke8 28.Qg8+ Kd7 29.Qd8+ Kc6 30. Qc7#. Even more pleasant.

Jun-01-12  bachbeet: I thought the correct move was Qg4+. No points for me. This was a very cool ending/mate.
Jun-01-12  Shams: <But a man-of war is a war ship.> Unless it's a Portuguese man-of-war, in which case it's a giant, disgusting jellyfish. http://www.aloha.com/~lifeguards/po...
Jun-01-12
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  gawain: It's got to start with 23 Qg5+, for if Black takes the queen (Bxg5) he will be mated on the move 24 Rf8#. But what if Black does not take? Must look more deeply.
Jun-01-12
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  gawain: Oh, the swirling follow-up checks are beautiful!
Jun-01-12  Tiggler: <sevenseaman>
<"You see I was working on the jig ( trying to make a kind of a stationary fork-lift). I was having a problem and my dad being an engineer too I asked for his advice".> I thought that the punch line was going to be that he told his dad he was having trouble with the jiggy-jig.
Jun-01-12  Patriot: <BOSTER> <<Patriot> <Material is even>. Are you sure? >

You're right--Black is up a rook. I guess the a8-rook is so much out of the game I didn't count it!

Jun-01-12  psmith: It took a VERY long time for me to see 24. Qg5+. Then everything fell into place.
Jun-01-12  BlackSheep: At first I was looking at Qg4 the idea seemed right but I couldnt make it work and then it dawned on me (not instantly I might add) that there was legs in it with the Q on g5 instead and then after a quick sift through the variations it was revealed that all roads led to Rome .
Jun-01-12  PugtheThug: either 24.Qg4+ or 24.Qg5+ would work because of white's Knight on c3. For 24.Qg5+, the Queen can't be taken because of Rf8 mate.
Jun-01-12  sevenseaman: <Tiggler> Its not a constructed joke and so there's hardly any punch line. Being real life I'd say it was just a tragicomic misunderstanding.

Thanks.

<gars> 'corda bamba' is a fun sound. Brazil have French too. A lucky lot, at least two top languages! You have the GOTD for a subject there, I think. Thanks.

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