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Richard Reti vs Savielly Tartakower
Vienna (1910), Vienna AUH
King's Gambit: Accepted. Abbazia Defense (C36)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Apr-21-09  Dredge Rivers: Of course! Doing 10 moves would just be too much of a good thing!
Jul-19-16  zanzibar: Where is this game from?

Neither 2e or 3e Trebitsch Memorials have a Reti // Tartakower draw.

Besides, a nine-move draw between these two is a little odd imo.

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  Retireborn: <z> Interesting to compare it to this:-

Reti vs Duras, 1912

- which is one of Reti's better-known games. Could 9.Be2 be an annotation by Tartakower? Otherwise it's probably just a fragment of a longer, possibly informal game. I agree it would be uncharacteristic of them to draw so quickly!

Jul-19-16  zanzibar: <RB> Hmmm... curious indeed.

The Duras game comes from the Abbazia 1912 tournament, where all the games were stipulated to open with KGA.

From the 1910 Reti--Spielmann match, only one game was a draw - a 45-move Spanish according to <Neue Freie Presse 1910.11.24 p11>.

Of course, the 2nd-pairing of the 1911 Trebitsch between these two was a draw.

So I close as I began, hmmm....

Jul-21-16  zanzibar: Combing through the literature I found the Reti--Duras game <RB> cited above, with a mention of a 1910 Trebitsch game.

From my notes:

<Please see WSZ v15 (1912) Suppl p395 G-1709 SpringerGambit

Reti--Duras with opening

1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 d5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.c4

This train with the continuation selected here was first played in the game Reti-Dr. Tartakower (Vienna. Trebitsch tournament 1910). While white remains in the Development initially back, has also some weaknesses, for replacements but good center and free lines. Therefore corresponds to this continuation of the idea of Gambit best.

Dieser Zug mit der hier gewählten Fortsetzung wurde zuerst gespielt in der Partie Reti-Dr. Tartakower (Wien. Trebitsch-Turnier 1910). Weiß bleibt zwar in der Entwicklung zunächst zurück, hat auch einige Schwächen, zum Ersätze aber ein gutes Zentrum und freie Linien. Daher entspricht diese Fortsetzung der Idee des Gambits am besten.

When they say 1910 Trebitsch they must be referring to 2e 2nd-pairing. >

Right now I'm not sure about the last assertion, as there is the 3e 1st-pairing which could be from 1910 as well.

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  Retireborn: <z> Well done! I would assume they mean the tournament that started in 1910, but it's not a safe assumption, unfortunately. I bet there were more moves too, even if they've been lost.
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  TheFocus: This game could not be from Trebitsch 1909-1910 or 1910-1911, as all the games between them were decisive. No draws.
Jul-22-16  zanzibar: <Focus> yes agreed, if the result of this game is correct.

But I think both <RB> and I tend to think this game is just an opening stub of a real game.

As such, I think it likely the result of the completed game could be different than what's shown here.

After all, how many KGA end in a draw in 9 moves?

Show me the source of the above scoresheet and we came go from there.

As it stands, we known from the record that one of Trebitsch games between these players opened with the first five moves indicated here.

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  TheFocus: <zanzibar> The game is afoot then!

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