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Greenblatt (Computer) vs Robert James Fischer
"Silicon Bust" (game of the day Apr-14-2016)
Computer Match (1977), Cambridge, MA USA
Sicilian Defense: Hyperaccelerated Dragon (B27)  ·  0-1

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Aug-04-10  BarcelonaFirenze: chancho, I'm really sorry. I really missed it. Thank you very much
Aug-04-10
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  chancho: <BarcelonaFirenze> Don't think too much of it. That can happen to anyone.
Feb-06-13  Mudphudder: The one thing I've learned from this game is how much computers have evolved since the days of Fischer. LOL.
Nov-18-13  hudapri: This computer played AMAZING for 1977.
Apr-14-16
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  Phony Benoni: Don't let anyone ever tell you the Good Old Days weren't all that good.

Human beings could still beat computers.

It was a Golden Age.

Of course, We were sort of cheating by using Fischer, whose greatest problem during the game was making it interesting.

Apr-14-16  waustad: Aw c'mon, I could regularly draw against my dedicated chess computer at fairly quick mode by playing the Colle System back then. The difference in strength between computers then and now is staggering.
Apr-14-16
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  alexmagnus: <a machine that couldn't beat my little sister> Is your little sister over 1500? Because if not, Greenblatt would win already ten years earlier: Greenblatt vs B Landey, 1967 (which is the first win of a computer over a rated player)
Apr-14-16
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  Garech: Great game from Fischer, and instructive how he delays queening despite it's winning a piece, in order to further tighten the screws first. Ironically, I often notice this when analysing games using an engine! A novice will always queen immediately.

-Garech

Apr-14-16  morfishine: Itsa Blatt Splat

<alexmagnus> FWIW: user <aazqua> hasn't posted in 6 years, I doubt he's around

Apr-14-16
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  offramp: Why didn't Fischer resign earlier? :_ he must of new he was bee tan?😙😙🌏🌒
Apr-14-16  Howard: Uhhh.....there appears to be a mistake in offramp's comment, just above. And it's rather obvious.
Apr-14-16
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  TheTamale: I like the pun for this game. I also like Greenblatt's "Spirit in the Sky."
Apr-14-16  The Kings Domain: Good game by Fischer, even though the computer was certainly no Deep Blue. I've heard that Fischer played against a computer but am surprised to know it was between '73-'91, thinking all the while that the man never played a game of note during those years.
Apr-14-16  Howard: The three games that Fischer played against Greenbelt, in 1977, are actually rather well-known. If I remember correctly, the New York Times ran an article about it back then.
Apr-14-16
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  kevin86: The computer was bad!
Apr-14-16  kingfu: I wonder what the Greenblatt had for hardware? Who wrote the program? It would also be interesting to know what the Soviets used for M20s hardware in 1963.

There were Cray Super computers back then. I think I have the equivalent to Cray from back then. I bought it for $350!

This was 5 years before DOS and the IBM PC.

Apr-14-16  Monkeyboy56: I think underpromoting to a bishop, instead of a queen, would have been a more satisfying and elegant ending!
Apr-14-16
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  AylerKupp: <<kingfu> It would also be interesting to know what the Soviets used for M20s hardware in 1963.>

I just finished doing some research on the M-20 as (possibly) used in the 1966-1967 ITEP Stanford program match and you can find some information and links in Bronstein vs M20, 1963 (kibitz #159).

As for the hardware that the Greenblatt program ran on, see Sinquefield Cup (2015) (kibitz #660).

Apr-14-16
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  Domdaniel: <Uhhh.....there appears to be a mistake in offramp's comment>

In fact, there are 134 mistakes in offramp's comment.

Apr-14-16  kingfu: Thank you, AylerKupp. Great stuff. I have more than 8k words in my sneakers!

It is still amazing what people could do with primitive hardware. Memory has always been a premium. Now that there is cheap, huge memory, the programs are sloppy and inefficient.

Anybody remember the S-100 Bus?

Apr-14-16
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  offramp: <kingfu: ...Anybody remember the S-100 Bus?>

Yes. Heathrow to Kingston-Upon-Thames.

Apr-14-16
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  AylerKupp: <kingfu> Yes, I remember both the S-100 bus and its predecessor, the S-99 bus. Just kidding about the latter, of course. ;-) The Altair 8800 with the S-100 bus came out in 1975 with 256 <words> (not even Kwords) of memory. At that time I was working with HP 2116 and HP 2100 minicomputers. They each had a maximum of 64 Kbytes of core memory at a cost of $ 0.50 per <byte>. Imagine, if those prices had remained constant, the memory in one of today's computers with 64 GB of RAM would cost $ 32 <billion> dollars!

Thank goodness we could do a lot with 64 Kbytes of memory!

Dec-30-16  j4jishnu: Hahahahaha. What a comment. "Thank goodness we could do a lot with 64 Kbytes of memory!"
May-22-19  The Boomerang: Why was Fischer OK with playing computers at this time but not humans?
Nov-09-19
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  SugarDom: I don't get the pun.😜
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