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Cesar Guillermo Poch vs Albin Planinc
Mar del Plata (1971), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 13, Apr-07
Gruenfeld Defense: Three Knights Variation. Petrosian System (D91)  ·  0-1

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Apr-04-14  Eduardo Leon: <sfm> 13...g5 looks like a fairly straightforward move. In this kind of opening, typically one sees a race between white's pawn storm in the queenside vs. black's pawn storm in the kingside.
Apr-04-14  landogriffin: That was like shelling an easy piece of bucket-cake in a pea-pie.
Apr-04-14  JG27Pyth: The key here was to concentrate and try not to planinc!

Such a lot of words in that name... not anagrammed... in order!

plan; plain; pain; lain; pan; pin; pic; laic (I seem to recall that is a word); inc.; and of course -- panic.

Apr-04-14
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  chrisowen: Trade a d7 knight off free for one in pocket f8,

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it plinks at scaled 26...Bh3 27.Bf1 Rxf3 (15.71)
light has to chuck his queen after g7 at e5

threaten mate in 1#.

Apr-04-14
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  kevin86: Black had to find a way to break communication between his queen and white's. Then he can carry out his attack on the king with mate threats.
Apr-04-14
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  Jimfromprovidence: It's a much tougher puzzle after 26 Rf1, seeing 26...Bh3 27 Rf2.


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27...Nxf3+ appears to win a piece but a more clever solution is 27...Bh6!, below, seeing 28...Bxe3.


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Apr-04-14  morfishine: Plananic conjured up a well-planned attack, or Plananic attack or panic attack, etc...

I pondered this for awhile before even realizing the Queens were en prise. This narrows our choices so it then becomes largely a matter of move order:

<25...Ne5> 26.dxe5 Bh3 And here White's choices are two: 27.Ne1 or 27.Bf1:

(1) 27.Ne1 Bxe5

(2) 27.Bf1 Rxf3 28.Rc2 Bxe5 29.Qxe5 Rxe5

*****

Apr-04-14
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  ajk68: Would 23. g4 have saved white?
Apr-04-14  vajeer: <Jimfromprovidence:> In your line, I was wondering if Black should play 26...Rf7 first to remove the white queen from h2-b8 diagonal(27. Qe6 loses queen to 27...Nxf3+). So after
26. Rf1 Rf7
27 white queen moves Bh3
28 Rf2
Now black can play Ng4
Apr-04-14
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  Penguincw: 25...Bh3 might work, if... white doesn't notice the en prise queen (like I did).
Apr-04-14
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  agb2002: Black has the bishop pair for a bishop, a knight and a pawn.

White threatens 26.Qxg3 and 26.Qxa7.

This threat combined with the attack against the black king suggest 25... Ne5, blocking the white queen and threatening 26... Nxf3+ 27.Bxf3 Rxf3 winning a piece:

A) 26.dxe5 Bh3

A.1) 27.Bf1 Rxf3

A.1.a) 28.e3 Be5 wins due to the double threat 29... Qh2# and 29... Bxc7.

A.1.b) 28.Kh1 Rxf1+ 29.Rxf1 Qxg2#.

A.2) 27.Ne1 Bxe5 28.Qxe5 Qxe5 29.gxh3 Qxe3+ 30.Kh1 Qxe2 - + [Q+P vs 2N].

A.3) 27.Nh4 Bxe5 as in A.2.

A.4) 27.Kf1 Bxg2+ 28.Kg1 Bh3+ 29.Kh1 Qg2#.

B) 26.Nxe5 Bh3 (26... Rf2 27.Bf1 Bh3 28.Rc2)

B.1) 27.Bf1 Bxe5 28.dxe5 Rxf1+ 29.Kxf1 (29.Rxf1 Qxg2#) 29... Qf3+ 30.Ke1 (30.Kg1 Qxg2#) 30... Qxe3+ 31.Kf1 Rf8+ and mate next.

B.2) 27.Bf3 Bxe5 28.dxe5 Bxg2 29.Qc2 (29.Bxg2 Rf2 and mate in two) 29... Bxf3+ 30.Kf1 Bxd1+ and mate next.

C) 26.Rf1 Bh3

C.1) 27.Rf2 Rf7 28.Qc2 (28.Qd6 Nxf3+ and 29... Qxd6; 28.Qxf7 Nxf7) 28... Ng4 seems to win an exchange at least.

C.2) 27.Ne1 Qxe3+ 28.Kh1 (28.Kh2 Qxe2 29.Rxf8+ Rxf8 30.dxe5 Bxe5+ wins the queen for two pieces) 28... Qxe2 29.Rxf8+ Rxf8 30.gxh3 (30.dxe5 Rf1+ 31.Kh2 Bxe5+, etc.) 30... Rf1#.

C.3) 27.Nh4 Qxe3+ followed by 28... Qxd4 seems to win at least a pawn while keeping the attack.

Apr-04-14  Patriot: Black has the bishop pair for a pawn. White threatens 26.Qxg3.

I would love to play 25...Bh3 but 26.Qxg3 kind of ruins it. So the next logical idea is 25...Be5, creating a dual threat.

25...Be5

26.dxe5 Bh3 27.Nh4 Qf2+ 28.Kh2 Qxh4 29.Bf1 Bxg2+ 30.Kxg2 Rf2+

26.dxe5 Bh3 27.Nh4 Qf2+ 28.Kh2 Qxh4 29.Kg1 Qf2+ and mate next.

26.Nxe5 Bh3 27.Bf1 Rxf1+

26.Qxa7 Bh3 27.Ne1 Qh2#

I think that about exhausts the critical moves.

Apr-04-14  LIFE Master AJ: I thought that both 25...Ne5 and 25...♗e5 looked promising.
Apr-04-14
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  Jimfromprovidence: <vajeer> <In your line, I was wondering if Black should play 26...Rf7 first to remove the white queen from h2-b8 diagonal(27. Qe6 loses queen to 27...Nxf3+). So after 26. Rf1 Rf727 white queen moves Bh3 28 Rf2 Now black can play Ng4>

You can do that and win but now white can play 27 dxe5 and give up his queen for a pawn and knight.

Plus the threat of ...Nxf3+ makes the c rook stay on the c file to defend the queen so if you play 26...Rf7 after 26 Rf1 you are giving that threat up.

Apr-04-14  N0B0DY: If you stare at it long enough, and you've got enough cold-medicine in you, and it's late on a friday, it almost looks like a, a, i donno. something...
Apr-04-14  BOSTER: <Patriot 25...Be5> Please, read <dfcx >comment.
Apr-04-14  Memethecat: Found this difficult.
Got 25...Ne5 26.dxe5 Bh3 27.Bf1 Rxf3 28.Rc2 Bxe5 (28.e6 Rxf1+ 29.Rxf1 Be5)

This was trickier 25...Ne5 26.Nxe5 Bh3 27.Bf1 Rxf1+ 28.Kxf1 and a bit of a King chase I couldn't resolve.

Apr-04-14  GoldenKnight: Got it all the way in a few minutes. I agree with <diagonalley>. But one MUST see the interference as <sydbarrett> pointed out.
Apr-05-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Winning a pawn looks easy:

45 Nd5 (Black moves his queen or king)
46 Ne7 (Black moves his king or queen)
47 Nxc6

I'd play at least the first two moves over the board fairly quickly, and assess where things stood after that.

If Black both moves his king to the h-file and gets his queen to d2 to try for perpetual check, Qf2 looks strong in reply. And if he tries the same approach to a perpetual check with his king at f7, Qe7+/Qd8+ should force an exchange of queens.

Apr-05-14  Cheapo by the Dozen: Whoops. Put comment up for wrong day's puzzle!!

Anyhow, in this one I saw the interference and most of the rest, but missed one big thing -- the difference between using knight and bishop to interfere, that difference being a mate at h2 after White just barely defends against the g2 mate.

Aug-01-17  Toribio3: Planinc played like Tal. Wow!
Aug-02-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Planinc to win
Apr-18-18  morfishine: It must've been frightening knowing one was playing Planinc on the morrow.

I imagine players thought "Jeeeez, I gotta play Planinc tomorrow"

"Can I call in sick?"

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Apr-18-18
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Morf,

The following day Najdorf did not call in sick - but perhaps wished he had.

A Planinc vs Najdorf, 1971

This tournament. Mar del Plata 1971 was notable for Polugaevsky doing a Fischer and finishing 3 pts clear of the chasing pack

https://www.365chess.com/tournament...

I know you are a massive Planinc fan, and why not, a great player.

Perhaps you should ask (nay demand) that C.G. add his name to the drop down bar on page one that lists all the great players. His name certainly belongs on that list.

Apr-19-18  morfishine: Hi <Sally Simpson> Yes, I really caught the 'Planinc bug' a few weeks ago that prompted me to go over his games, and that has been a source of immense pleasure to me. His fluid, relentless style is almost hypnotic and utterly consistent, win, lose or draw. Thats what I find most attractive about his games. He has some 500+ games archived here and I swear, over half of these games are "gems" in my book.

<CG> has been very accommodating in my requests regarding Planinc. The most recent accomplishment is activating the forum for Vidmar Memorial 1969 Vidmar Memorial (1969) where the untitled Planinc slashed his way through an army of masters to win the tournament

Plans are underway to create a forum for Amsterdam IBM 1973 where Planinc shared 1st with Petrosian

Great idea to have Planinc's name added to the drop down, I'll drop it over at <CG.com>

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