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Vladimir Kramnik vs Peter Leko
Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004), Brissago SUI, rd 6, Oct-03
Spanish Game: Closed Variations (C84)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Oct-03-04  Calchexas: Looks to me like Leko had a slight advantage here...though I agree, it's good for him that he's coming back with the white pieces. However, I'm sorta bummed that he didn't choose to hold on to his momentum and FIGHT!
Oct-03-04
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  tamar: <Gypsy> The King walk yesterday still sticks in my mind. Maybe Leko had a similar hard time concentrating. It looked like one of those Oldrich Duras studies you posted.
Oct-03-04  Jack Rabbit: I'm really disappointed at this draw. There was some play here and I would have liked to see the game continue. I didn't have a problem with games two or three being agreed draws as early as they were, but here each player still has something to show.

Leko may not have had a winning advantage, but he had a definite one. Why didn't the Marathon Man keep running?

Oct-03-04  Willem Wallekers: This computer of mine actually prefers White in the final position. I don't know why, but perhaps Leko thought the same.
Oct-03-04  PinkPanther: More crap from Kramnik. I really hate him.
Oct-03-04  Giancarlo: I excpeted an early draw today, after what took place yesterday. Really no surprise.
Oct-03-04  Andrew Chapman: Could someone explain 14...d5? If 15.e4xd5 Nxd5 16.Nxe5 Nxe5 17.RxN black doesn't have Bd6 straight away as in a Marshall and white seems less underdeveloped than in a Marshall.
Oct-03-04  WMD: 17...Bf6 gave Black good compensation.
Oct-03-04  iron maiden: <PinkPanther> Why blame Kramnik? Leko was the one who had the advantage, and the one who offered the draw.
Oct-03-04  suenteus po 147: <iron maiden> I think it was PinkPanther at one point who made the suggestion (and it's not without merit) that Kramnik by his "drawing nature" exudes an aura and reputation for prudent draws. As a result, you often find players offering draws to him that they would not offer to others under similar circumstances. I wonder how many people offered Fischer early draws? Anyway, I don't agree that this is crap, and I don't hate Kramnik, but I can see how he, like any other grandmaster, can somewhat influence opponents negatively.
Oct-03-04
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  Gypsy: <   tamar: <Gypsy> The King walk yesterday still sticks in my mind. Maybe Leko had a similar hard time concentrating. It looked like one of those Oldrich Duras studies you posted. > So I also had to go back and push icons (pieces) around. My thoughts are posted there. That was one grand endgame yesterday!
Oct-03-04  patzer2: Before jumping on Leko and Kramnik for the "quick draw," you might want to take a look at Svidler vs Anand, 2004.

At least Leko and Kramnik did work hard to spice up the theory of this opening a bit. The analysis of Leko's 14...d5 (Marshall-like) gambit offer should be interesting. Kramnik's 17. Ne3 resource also looks instructive.

Oct-03-04
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  Gypsy: Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the game was psychological: Leko asked Kramnik if he was ready to mix it up, mano a mano, which Kramnik politely declined.
Oct-04-04  Dick Brain: Has there ever been another world champion who would play so many games like this one?
Oct-04-04  drcdwil: <iron maiden> Happy B-day. I remember reading somewhere that Oct 5th was your big day. Stay out of trouble!!
Oct-04-04  square dance: <iron maiden> happy birthday!!! did you know that this is mario lemieux's bday as well? he's a little older though. ;-)
Oct-04-04  InspiredByMorphy: Too bad Kramnik didnt play 4.Bxc6 .
Oct-04-04  LOUDERMILK: <InspiredByMorphy> I take it, you like the exchange variation. I'm a big fan of the exchange myself. Leads to complicated and exiciting games.
Oct-04-04  Knezh: Yep, <iM> happy b-day! :)
Oct-04-04  percyblakeney: Yes, happy birthday <iron maiden>!
Oct-04-04  InspiredByMorphy: <iron maiden> Happy B-day. <LOUDERMILK> I agree.
Oct-04-04  iron maiden: Thanks, everybody, for the advance birthday congratulations. With all I'm doing these days, I actually forgot it was tomorrow!
Oct-05-04  pawn52: <iron maiden> Happy B-Day.
Oct-05-04  Bigbluedog: Early draw has merit here. I see it much the same as in a boxing match in this comparison. The games are equal to each round of the match in boxing so to speak. A boxer may back up to the ropes let his opponent exhaust himself with meaningless punches. Why? Simple to survive that round and rest with the intention of knocking opponent out at a later more opportune moment. Of course this has often backfired when exactly the opposite happened later. I believe it was to Leko's advantage to draw this game. the doggieman Bigbluedog
Oct-10-04  Strategic Joker: <Bigbluedog> yups , the backfire part when playing with draws is very mean , i hate it when it happens to me in minor tournys , i was in a class A tournament winning but in the last round i was tired , it was night , i had played basketball with all the players ( my how my friends and i whooped some IM and Masters in the BB court <something we cant do OBT> ) and in the last game i offered a quick draw after 9 moves , just to learn i lost fisrt prize :( and 500 $$$ . It was an international tournament at my school

also LoL i like your profile :) "Did i mention i love chess , blackchess" :)

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