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Peter Leko vs Vladimir Kramnik
Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004), Brissago SUI, rd 7, Oct-05
Slav Defense: Soultanbeieff Variation (D16)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Oct-05-04  Dick Brain: When these two guys are playing, you cannot afford to doze off for a few minutes or the whole game from beginning to early draw will have taken place.
Oct-05-04  ChessMan94: Can someone please answer my previous question?? What is white's reply after black takes the pawn on b6? White cannot take the pawn because he's lost by a backrank mate with 22. ... Rxa1+ I must be missing something!!!
Oct-05-04  acirce: <AlekhineViaOuija> Thank you for those wise comments. And yes, it would seem natural for Kramnik to switch from 1.e4.

<ChessMan94> He just plays Rc1 or something.

Oct-05-04  percyblakeney: White shouldn't take the pawn on b6 on move 22, but move the rook somewhere to the right, I think.
Oct-05-04  mack: <The games can be followed live at http://worldchesschampionship.com and http://chessclub.com>; Aren't you forgetting somewhere else, AlekhineViaOuija?
Oct-05-04
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  Joshka: oh my another short draw...just got in...these guys are still quite young..and won't fight...shame on them
Oct-05-04  acirce: They fought for three hours...
Oct-05-04
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  Joshka: <acirce> check with Fritz...what's wrong with 20.f4?..still keeps the pressure on black, no?
Oct-05-04  Giancarlo: I'm not sure why this is a short draw. The game could get intresting.
Oct-05-04  percyblakeney: 12 or 17.Qf3 would probably have given white better chances than the chosen moves.
Oct-05-04
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  Joshka: <perceyblakeney> or 13.Qb3!...his d5 might have been premature...
Oct-05-04
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  Joshka: <acirce> <they fought for three hours> well...mercey...allright if this is some weekend small town tourney...but a World Championship Match...with everything on the line...Leko studied with Bobby..I'm sure Bobby would be diassapointed with his student not to continue....I play sometimes 3 and 4 hour games on ICC ands I'm a nobody in chess. Fighting at the top of the mountain....you owe it to your art to give more....IMHO..
Oct-05-04  percyblakeney: The question will be at what stage in the match Leko will start trying harder in positions where he's got a tiny advantage. He can't waste that many chances before the match is over.
Oct-05-04  Dpm: I don't know why people are complaining about the draw there are only going to be three or four pawns left for each side. There is really not much to work with. Even two little guys like even 2200's would more than likely agree the game drawn around here. Why shouldn't Kramnik and Leko.
Oct-05-04  ruylopez900: hmm, exchanged down to a symmetrical one sided endgame with no majors. Doesn't get much more drawish then that. I say that game 8 Kramnik comes out w/ the Italian Game and goes all aggresive against Leko looking to restore his lead. Cutthroat chess!
Oct-05-04  acirce: I'm absolutely certain Leko wants to be World Champion... if he takes a draw it's not because of lack of fighting spirit but for other reasons. At this moment he doesn't DESPERATELY need a win ..
Oct-05-04  percyblakeney: In the final position there is nothing wrong with drawing, but I didn't think Leko would play himself into this position with lots of exchanges when he did have a small advantage. I dare say that he probably knows these things better than I do, though.
Oct-05-04  yoozum: hah, i see leko broke out the 1. d4 again. not surprising at all after his win.
Oct-05-04  Giancarlo: <acirce>
agreed. No desperate win is needed now. Lots of games left.
Oct-05-04  iron maiden: Darn, I was hoping they'd give me a good game today. Oh well, from what I see it was fun while it lasted.
Oct-05-04  patzer2: <Chessman64>, <Acirce>'s idea of following 21...axb6 with 22. Rc1 = is better than 21...axb6 22. Rxa8? Rxa8 23. g3 Bh3!
Oct-06-04  The Analyst: 6 e4 was what Alekhine played against Bogoljubow in Nottingham 1936. That game went 6...Bb4 7 e5 Ne4 8 Qc2 Qd5 9 Be2 c5 10 0-0 Nxc3 11 bxc3 cxd4 12 Nxd4, with a slight advantage to White. In Leko's next White, he might try 1 e4, if he's had enough time to prepare something against the Petroff. I think it's more likely he'll play 1 d4 again, however.
Oct-07-04  midknightblue: Alekhineviaouija.. Thx for the link to your cool website. Joshka... nice comments, I agree whole heartedly. Acirce...I see you continue to love these early draws. You are in good company with Kramnik.
Oct-07-04
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  ray keene: a beautiful variation given by alekhine is as follows 6e4 bb4
7e5 ne4
8qc2 qd5
9be2 c5
10o-o nxc3
11bxc3 cxd4
12cxd4 c3
13bd2 qa5
14bxc3 bxc3
15ra3
thus far alekhine-euwe 19/1935

15...bd7
16 rxc3 bxa4
17bb5+!! and wins

alekhine got this line 4 times -twice v bogolyubov and once each v helling and euwe. alekhine thought 5...e6 weak, tho doubtless kramnik wd have found improvements on the way alekhines opponents played.

Oct-23-05  Unicornio: That was Alekhine The Great!! but pretending that of Drawmnik is a fantasy.

Drawmnik wont play exciting variants or will fight instead of making one of his short draws.

Alekhine is something, but Kramnik!!!

there is no point of comparision

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