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Marvin Dekker vs Benjamin Hoareau
Calvia Olympiad (2004), Calvia ESP, rd 5, Oct-19
Grob Opening: General (A00)  ·  1-0



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Nov-17-05  prinsallan: Once more in the opening explorer the Grob opening proves to be a fine weapon. I am very new to the Grob and if any experienced player reads this it would be great with some explanations on why this opening has a stunning 71% win according to the opening explorer.

I used to play g5 in order to fianchetto and 0-0 early, but that was several years ago. I feel good about g4, but I cant seem to understand exacttly why.

Nov-17-05  mrbasso: The online database simply has only ~345000 games, whereas the databases from Chessbase or Convekta have ~3 million games. According to Bigbase 2005 1.g4 has 47%
success rate based on >900 games...
Nov-24-05  prinsallan: thanks <mrbasso>.
As I said on another page, cant even remember which one, but it was a grob opening: "I cant understand why the Grob should have more wins than a standard Kings pawn or Queens pawn opening, but if so, it must have something to do with it being played only by the initiated or the very best (and I find the latter unbelievable)".
Nov-24-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Many of the Grob opening games in this database were also played by Claude Frizzel Bloodgood. The authenticity (and value) of his games are doubtful.
Dec-05-05  prinsallan: <EmperorAtahualpa> I read about Claude now, seems he knew the Grob. According to the info about him he wrote books about this opening. Do you mean that his games are doubtful beacause: 1: The players he met were bad players or:
2: The games are mostly from small tournaments, stating that <back to 1> ^^
Dec-05-05  prinsallan: Addon to last post...
Ps. Yes, I read all the info about him, and the info said he ranked high since he exploited the system rating with consistently beating low ranked players. Ds
Dec-05-05  EmperorAtahualpa: well <prinsallan> what I'm arguing is 1: his opponents are bad.

And if these games entered the opening explorer, the winning percentage using the Grob of course gives a wrong impression.

And in his case, the fact that he wrote a book doesn't mean much. :)

Dec-05-05  Marvol: 7. d7-d5?? is not the brightest of moves.

And I think it has only partially to do with the opening being the Grob - that is, it knocked black into a state of "oh well I'll just take it easy with a fianchetto". Although black's play is so silly that he may have played it against 1. e2-e4, too.

It's again not the Grob that's strong but its opponent who's weak.

Dec-07-05  prinsallan: Thats what happens when you play against n00bs ^^
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  Eggman: <<7...d5??>>

Oh, the Hoareau! The Hoareau!!

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