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Baadur Jobava vs Alexander Grischuk
Calvia Olympiad (2004), Calvia ESP, rd 12, Oct-27
Slav Defense: Czech. Carlsbad Variation (D17)  ·  1-0



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Nov-11-04  sagahelten: 23. Ng7! is a beatiful move. Impressive score by Jobava at the Olympiad!
Mar-23-05  Whitehat1963: Endgame puzzle position after 22...Nc4. (Nice finish from the P.O.D.)
Mar-23-05  hintza: <Endgame puzzle position> Looks more like the middlegame to me.
Mar-24-05  Whitehat1963: Whatever, <hintza>, considering the game was over four moves later, I'd call it an endgame puzzle.
Mar-24-05  hintza: <Whitehat1963> Well then, we clearly have different opinions on what an "endgame" is...

There is no way that this is an endgame position at White's 23rd move.

Mar-24-05  soberknight: <Whitehat1963> Endgame is the period of a chess game where each side has only a few pieces, pawn promotion is usually the primary goal (short of mate) for each player, and usually the king can participate as a fighting piece. There are other possible definitions, but they are not much different.

An endgame can last 100 moves or more. It does not imply the end of the game being played. So what you suggest would be a middlegame puzzle.

Mar-25-05  aw1988: Most endgames are under 100 moves, but there are exceptions.

I once played an exhausting 149 move game where it was a Sicilian Najdorf and my opponent sacrificed his queen for good play after lengthy maneuvers. I had a queen and a pawn, he had two rooks and two pawns. The game ended in a draw, I was unable to break such a material balance.

Mar-25-05  aw1988: The next day I played a 12 move draw.
Mar-25-05  hintza: <aw1988> <The next day I played a 12 move draw.> I don't blame you. In the endgame you mentioned, surely only the rooks had winning chances? It depends on the positions of the pawns of course, but I would have favoured the rooks after seeing Leko-Kramnik WCh game 1!
Mar-25-05  aw1988: Yes, two rooks are usually stronger than the mighty queen, and I was unable to break that theory.
Mar-25-05  aw1988: Also, Kramnik was not lying- the dancing rooks are hard to get rid of. That night I kept trying to fall asleep but could not help keep thinking of different maneuvers with the queen.
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  wordfunph: apparently when the game ended, Jobava had more time on his clock than when the game started..

(NIC Magazine 2004/08)

Feb-19-14  hedgeh0g: Apparently, the whole game was a prepared line by Jobava...

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