|Dec-31-04|| ||Bobak Zahmat: <www.chessgames.com> WHAT!!!! Is Alekhine playing black?! Or is a mistake? Cause I don't think he would lose that simple! |
|Dec-31-04|| ||mqhelisi: when was Alekhine born? maybe he was still kid then |
|Dec-31-04|| ||meloncio: <mqhelisi><when was Alekhine born?> November 1, 1892. You're right, he was only 11 years old. |
|Sep-19-05|| ||wwall: Why not 11...Nxe4, and of 12.Rfe1, then 12...d5.
Why not 15.Rxe5?
15...e4 doesn't look good. Why not 15...Nxa4, and if 16.Bxe6 (16.Qxa4 b5) Qxe6 17.Rxe5 Qxe5 18.Bxe5 Nb6 19.Re1 Be7 20.Bd6 Nc8, and Black should hold.
Perhaps best is 16...gxf6, and if 17.Nxc5 Bxc5 18.Bxe6 Qd6 19.Rxe4 b6.
After 20.Rfe1, perhaps 20...Kf8 (20...b5 21.Qb3 Qd6 22.Bf5, threatening 23.Rxe7+ Qxe7 24.Rxe7+ Kxe7 25.Qe6+ Kf8 26.Qd6+ Kf7 27.Qd7+ Kf8 28.Be6, and mating) 21.Bc4 Qa3 22.Qd1 b5 23.Rxe7, and if 23...bxc4?? 24.Qd7 leads to mate.
|May-18-06|| ||micahtuhy: Wow, its weird to see the great Alekhine getting beaten by the Danish Gambit, but once I see that he was only 11 years old at the time, I am a little bit more understanding of the situation.|
|Sep-26-06|| ||Phony Benoni: In his book Chess Openings : Theory and Practice, I. A. Horowitz advocated a defense to the Danish similar to what Alekhine comes up with here: 5...c6, 6...d6, 7...Nd7, 8...Nc5 (with alterations if necessary).|
It's not as silly as it seems. I've tried it a few times in blitz, and more often than not Black is able to block up the center and win with his extra pawns. Of course--and especially in blitz--he can get blown away if he makes one inaccurate move. But you might look into it if you aren't combfortable with the book reply 5...d5.
|Sep-26-06|| ||tpstar: Here are 2 good examples of the Chigorin Defense to the Danish Gambit = Mieses vs Chigorin, 1902 & Mieses vs Chigorin, 1904|
Along with <wwall>'s excellent suggestions, consider 10 ... Nh6!? to avoid any e4-e5 kick, also the KN can be deployed to f7 or g4/e5 where it's more useful. I also wonder about 12 ... Nxe6 instead of 12 ... fxe6 aiming to keep lines closed.
|Sep-27-06|| ||Cyphelium: <wwall> 11. -♘xe4 12. ♖fe1 d5 13. ♘xd5 cxd5 14. ♗xd5 f5 15. f3 wins the piece back and white's attack looks very strong at that. |
Possibly, white didn't like 15. ♖xe5 ♗d6 16. ♖ee1 0-0 and black is two pawns up. True, white can win one of them back with 17. Na4 Rae8 18. Nxc5 Bxc5 19. Bxe6+ Rxe6 20. Qxc5 b6, but black still has a pawn and he can't lose after putting a rook on f7 and the knight on d5.
After 16.- gxf6 17. ♘xc5 ♗xc5 18. ♗xe6 ♕d6 19. ♖xe4 b6, white must be winning after 20. ♖d1, for example 20.- ♕c7 21. ♖d7 ♕b8 22. ♕d1 h5 and now 23. ♗f7+ followed by 24. ♖e8+ or perhaps even simpler 23. ♕f3!.
|Apr-28-07|| ||brainof7: best is 5... d5
If Bx then K Fork e pawn and bishop. If ex then you just isolated his pawn, and youre already up pawns...
|Jul-19-09|| ||Honza Cervenka: <wwall> <Why not 11...Nxe4, and of 12.Rfe1, then 12...d5.>|
Well, 11...Nfxe4 is just bad for 12.Rae1 d5 13.Bxd5 (13.Nxd5 is fine too as <Cyphelium> pointed out) 13...cxd5 14.Nxd5 Qd7 15.Rxe4+ with decisive attack, for example 15...Nxe4 16.Qxe4+ Kd8 17.Rd1 (diagram) with defenseless black King trapped in the centre under focused fire of all white pieces.
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11...Ncxe4 can be a bit better but still not much attractive, for example 12.Rae1 d5 13.Bd3 Be6 14.Nxe4 dxe4 15.Nxe6 fxe6 16.Bxe4 or even 16.Qb3 with strong attack for sacced Pawns.
|Sep-10-10|| ||Lil Swine: most of the time if your a beginner, its just be a butcher and eat all your opponets pieces|
|Jan-02-11|| ||hedgeh0g: I like 5...Bb4+ followed by Nf6 against the Danish. The best counter to development is development.|
|May-19-11|| ||Two Knights Master: "Phony Benoni: In his book Chess Openings : Theory and Practice, I. A. Horowitz advocated a defense to the Danish similar to what Alekhine comes up with here: 5...c6, 6...d6, 7...Nd7, 8...Nc5 (with alterations if necessary)." |
I think the difference with that defense is that Horowitz places emphasis on playing Be6 as soon as the knight is on c5. That means that Be6 would be the move to play on move 10 according to Horowitz. Perhaps that is the correct way to go about it. This would've never given white the chance to eliminate the bishop with the knight.
|Sep-24-11|| ||kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:
|Nov-30-12|| ||brankat: AAA was only 11 years old at the time, while Vinogradov was probably close to a master's level player.|
|Nov-17-13|| ||MrJafari: why Black resigned? isn't any solution to continue?|
|Jan-02-16|| ||ADDADZ: Alekhine was born in Moscow, on 31 October 1892 so in this he was 11|
|Nov-09-16|| ||indomega: 21.Bd7+ Kxd7 22.Rxe7+ gives white a strong attack|
This might happen if back does not prevent this.
|Feb-14-17|| ||MrJafari: Black's king in the center is helpless and hopeless!|
|Feb-14-17|| ||JimNorCal: "why Black resigned?"
Maybe Mr and Mrs Alekhine stopped paying for stamps? Just kidding, but it's interesting to imagine the constraints on an 11 year old.
|Sep-01-19|| ||Honza Cervenka: According to Grozdovsky, this game was played by Alekhine's older brother Alexey.|
|Sep-01-19|| ||Honza Cervenka: <According to Grozdovsky> of course, Grodzenskiy (Гродзенский)... apparently I need a coffee.|