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Mohsen Ghorbani vs Hasanali Faryad
11th Fajr Open (2003), Tehran IRI, rd 4
English Opening: Symmetrical. Anti-Benoni Variation (A31)  ·  1-0



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Dec-14-04  checkpat: <Englishman> In the hedge hog its Qxd4 not Nxd4 that is played....

Its Anastasia mate like yesterday
(well translated down) Epaulette is with
flight square occupied by rooks....

Dec-14-04  checkpat: <mjk> Thanks for the reference its an albinos hedgehog crossed with an
hipoopotamus: a monster in nature!
Dec-14-04  Nickisimo: I tried Nh5 as well, but this whole getting up early thing has gotten my mind a little off kilter I suppose.
Dec-14-04  musashi78: nothing like a corridor mate
Dec-14-04  centrumspits: What is the refutation of Ng5? If like Greystar69 pointed out 33. ... Bd7 then Nf7# not? If 33. ... Rd7 then exchange rooks first followed by Nf7#
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  cu8sfan: <riqhi> Max und Moritz is a famous story by Wilhelm Busch:

It's over 100 years old but even today every German (or Swiss) child knows that story. Busch's stories are well worth reading and can be considered as forerunners of today's comics.

Dec-14-04  riqhi: I saw the same mate as <maxundmoritz>

<greystart69> Let me know if I'm missing something but: 33. Ng5 Bd7 34. Nf7#

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  cu8sfan: O I see, talking about Anastasia's mate the other day (A Andersen vs A Hersvik, 2003) I thought that mate was referred to as "maxundmoritz"-mate. Only now do I see that there is actually a User Profile: maxundmoritz.

Hi <maxundmoritz> and <riqhi>! That link I gave above is still worth a visit.

Dec-14-04  radu stancu: caballos2: The "hedgehog" is a position that can appear in several openings; besides the English, I know there's a possibility to reach it at least in the Sicilian. I'm not aware if there are any others, but I wouldn't be surprised.

As for the solution, I also saw that 33.Ng5 wins, so I didn't look any further.

Dec-14-04  Castle In The Sky: I just read Max und Moritz, having never heard of them. They are sort of the "Pen and Teller" of German boyhood, only worse!
Dec-14-04  Elrathia Kingi: 1.Ng5 Be8 2.Rxh7 Nxh7 3.Qxh7#

1.Ng5 Rd7 2.Rxd7 B/Nxd7 3.Nf7#

1.Ng5 R(either)f8 2.Rxh8+ and mates

Ng5 looks good to me. Can anyone demonstrate how it doesn't win?

Premium Chessgames Member 33.Ng5 wins also, just not as quickly.
Dec-14-04  notyetagm: The point is that in this position you have a forced mate in 3 with checks so that is without question the best line: 33 ♖xh7+!! ♘xh7 34 ♕xh7+ ♔xh7 35 ♖h4#. It is much less prone to miscalculation than the 33 ♘g5 lines because 33 ... ♘xh7 and 34 ... ♔xh7 are <Black's only moves> in response to 33 ♖xh7+!!. Since 33 ♘g5 is not check, Black may be able to construct a defense, perhaps by moving a piece with check to reposition it with tempo for the defense of his king. Such a defensive maneuver is <impossible> in the forcing 33 ♖xh7+!! line.

This week's theme seems to be: trap the enemy king on the h-file and then sac for the h-pawn and give mate down the h-file with a heavy piece.

Dec-14-04  klausewitz: Easy solution for tuesday. Even begginers (like me) could get the answer.
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  kevin86: Another Anathasia mate-check along the edge by a rook or queen-and the exit square on the next file blocked by a knight.

Hedgehog? I had always thought that several pawns on your third rank was called a hippopotamus. (anyone remember Peter Potamus in his balloon wth SOso his monkey partner?)

Dec-14-04  maxundmoritz: <greystar69> Nh5 does work as well, for example 33... Rd7 34. Nxf6 Rgg7 35. Rc8+ Rg8 36. R4c7 Rxc7 37. Nxc7 Qxc7 38. Rxg8# or 37... Rxc8 39. Qxh7#
Dec-14-04  Spudds: 33.rf7 wins here also, right?
Dec-14-04  Reisswolf: Damn, I got it wrong! I had 33. Qxh7+, followed by 34. Rxh7+.
Dec-14-04  Skylark: That's not wrong, it works exactly the same way.

I had Nh5, which also wins... Black was truly trash-canned in this game.

<notyetagm> You can't find a defense for Ng5 and it still checkmates. There's no prize for the fastest mate.

Dec-14-04  MacKinnon451: Hi I'm new to chess after 33... Nxh7 how does white win?
Dec-14-04  erikcu: <MacKinnon451> White takes the knight with its Queen, black has to take the queen. Then white brings its remaining rook to h4. Black's king is in check and can not flee because his own pawn and rook are blocking two escape squares and white's knight has the other escape square covered.
Dec-14-04  dac1990: I think the immediate 33. Rh4 would have also worked. Anyone care to disprove me?
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  tpstar: 33. Rh4 Qxc7 34. dxc7/Nxc7 Rd7 holds for a few moves. Or even 33 ... Rd7 instead.
Dec-14-04  Skylark: I had 33. Nh5


33. ... g5 / gxh5
34. Qxf6+ Rg7
35. Qxg7#


33. ... Nxh5
34. Qxh7#


33. ... Qxc7
34. dxc7 Rd7
35. d8=Q Rxd8
36. Rxd8+ Ng8
37. Qg7#

Is there something I'm missing?

Dec-14-04  erikcu: I think black started losing this game at 17... d5. Any thoughts on this?
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