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Ruslan Ponomariov vs Judit Polgar
Corus Group A (2005), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-16
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  1-0

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Jan-16-05
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  Calli: 37...Qf2?! and 39.Qxh4? looks like a bad plan.
Jan-16-05  nimko: someone tell me polgar in this game heve any chance for a draw. this question is very imortent to me.
Jan-16-05  Drudge: What does imortent mean?
Jan-16-05  arielbekarov: Judit Polgar is doing great ! She cannot win all the games. Tomorrow will be another day !

<Drudge> This is not funny ! Try to answer <nimko>'s question.

They are closing here now, and I haven't hardly looked at the game. I have to improve on this field, but personally, I think that she had even chances for winning. It's a tough and very good tournament,
so it will be a lot of good and very tight games. I am sure ! All the best to all of you and try to help <nimko> with his question ! Ariel

Jan-16-05  suenteus po 147: This game is a good example that you shouldn't really count anyone out just yet in a tournament like this. Ponomariov needed a win after his loss to Topalov and he got it! Not only did he get it, but he got it against board favorite Polgar who also won a game last round. So obviously Anand, Morozevich, and Kramnik (hopefully), are not out of it yet either.
Jan-16-05  Lawrence: <nimko>, <Junior 8> says that Judith was absolutely impotent. In no way could she have drawn this game (outside of an incompetent blunder by Pono, of course.)
Jan-16-05  euripides: how impertinent of Junior !
Jan-16-05  Minor Piece Activity: Well junior 8 is literally impotent so there. ;)
Jan-16-05  nimko: some good player could tell me after 25 move Judit bee the cramped position???(meaby could winn!!!) sorry for may englisch
Jan-16-05  poktirity: <nimko> Can you tell us were you are from? Perhaps someone can help you in your native language.
Jan-16-05  nimko: I come from Poland
Jan-16-05  nimko: enyone from Poland???
Jan-16-05  hintza: I have been looking at some possible improvements for Judit, but I don't think she had any winning chances. She may have had drawing chances until quite late. 13...a5!? is a very interesting pawn sacrifice indeed, and it appears to be sound. When watching the game live, 22...b4 was generally expected. This gives a similar position to the actual game after 23.Nd5 Bxd5 24.Qxd5 Qa3 anyway, and I don't think it really improves on Judit's 22...Rfb8. 24...Rc8 another idea but again things seem perfectly satisfactory for white. 29...Ra6 gaining a tempo from the actual game is apparently not much better either, e.g. 30.Qc4 Qe3 (30...Rxa2?! 31.Nxa2 Qxa2+ 32.Kc1 Qa1+ and the king escapes via d2) 31.Rb5 Qxf3 32.Rf1 Qh5 33.Rb7 and black is awkwardly placed. Many people watching live on the ICC were suggesting 31...Rxa4??, which fails to 32.bxa4 Qxa4 33.Nb3! with a winning advantage to white. Another unsuccessful try for black is 32...Rc6 33.Qd2 Rac8 34.c4 and white is fine. 33...Rb6 may improve upon 33...Ra5, e.g. 34.Rxb6 Qxb6 35.Qd5 Ra6 36.Qd2 and white still looks good here. 35...Qa6 36.Qd3 Rxb5 37.Nxb5 Bb6 is worth a try but does not really trouble white. 37...Qc5 looks like a definate improvement over 37...Qf2, 37...Qc5 38.Qxc5 dxc5 with good chances of drawing. 39...Qxf3 looks significantly better than taking the h-pawn as Judit did, although at this point she was in minor time trouble. One line is 39...Qxf3 40.Nf6+ Kh8 41.Rxd6 Qc3 with drawing chances. 42...Qh6 looks like a chance of holding out for longer after 43.Qxe5 Ra8+ 44.Kb1 Qf8. Finally, 43...Qh6 looks like the last chance of holding out for a possible, though admittedly unlikely draw, after for example 44.Qxe5 Qf8 and white looks very strong after 45.Qe7 Re8 46.Rd7! etc.
Jan-16-05  actinia: how about 36... Qxa5 with ideas like Ra7-Rc7 and Bd4 for black
Jan-17-05
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  patzer2: I'm impressed with Ponomariov's win. He slowly strangles the position, accumulating small advantages with no perceptible errors. Judit Polgar's play shows no glaring blunders, but her younger opponents strong play slowly steals the advantage and turns the game into a win.

However, I do have one suggestion. Perhaps 33...Ba5!? instead of exchanging down material at this point would have enabled Judit to hold the position.

Play might continue 33...Ba5!? 34. b4 Bd8 35. Nc3 Kg7 36. Rbd5 Rb6 37. Rxd6 Qc7 38. Qxc7 Rxb4+ 39. Ka1 Bxc7 =

Jan-17-05
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  patzer2: After Judit's 37...Qf2?! (better perhaps was 37...Bd2!? or 37...Qb7), Ruslan's double attack with 38. Qc6! gains a clear and perhaps decisive advantage.
Jan-17-05  Lawrence: <nimko>, Junior 8 suggests that Judith was OK after Pono's 26th move. Things started to get pretty bad after move 37, and by move 47 she could have resigned.
Jan-17-05  arielbekarov: <nimko> You are doing just fine in English ! You don't need any help in your native language.

We are a lot of non-English speakers here and even native speakers, who frequently are making spelling mistakes.

<Nimko> there is no reason in the world to excuse yourself for your English. You will learn a lot by writing postings !

And, I see that you have got some great help !

Now, I will take a look, if there really wasn't chances for her. Ariel

Jan-17-05  arielbekarov: See, already a mistake !

It should be <we are a lot of non native speakers in English> (See my previous message)

Pozdraviam ! (<Nimko> Is it correct ?) Ariel

Jan-17-05  arielbekarov: <Lawrence> Junior 8 is the Israeli one that won the computer contest in Israel in July 2004, right ?

Are you satisfied ?

If one compares with Fritz ?

Or is it sufficient with one of them ?

I have only seen Fritz and all the other "computerstars" on picture. I don't even have a computer of my own, but hopefully, I will have one in the near future.

I am reluctant concerning these machines, but I find it fascinating as well.

Is it a good idea to have bouth of them ?

Anyone may answer my question.
I would even be happy to get some different answers regarding <Junior 8 and Fritz>

You find it hard to discipline yourself whether to use our own marvellous machine that we are created with first ? Sometimes, I wonder about my own, but it has its good moments. I believe firmly that we must do our utmost without the computer aid first, and then consult the artificial intelligence.

Thanks in advance !
Ariel

Jan-17-05  Lawrence: <arielbekarov>, yes, Junior was invented by 2 Israelis. <Junior 9> is now on sale.

No need to have 2 programs, any one of them is absolutely mindblowing.

Jan-17-05  hintza: <patzer2> I think the critical line after 33...Ba5 34.b4 Bd8 35.Nc3 is 35...a2+ 36.Ka1 Qf2 and black looks fine here.
Jan-17-05  zer0: According to Chess Today CT-1532 Pono missed mate with:

45. ♖d7! ♖f8
46. ♕xf8+! ♔xf8
47.♖d8#

Jan-17-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Ron: <zer0> It is not a forced mate after 45. Rd7. Black does not have to move 45. ... Rf8. She could move Kh7. But after 45. Rd7 Kh7 it might then go 46. Qxf7+ Kh6 47. Qg7+ Kg5 48. f7 Doesn't seem good for Black either way.
Feb-14-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Albertan: Here is some analysis I have done of this game:

Ponomariov,R (2700) - Polgar,J (2728) Opening:Sicilian Defense,Najdorf Variation ECO[B90]
Corus 2005 Wijk aan Zee (2), 16.01.2005

Play in the game began with these moves:

1.e4 c5

The Sicilian Defense, Judit's favorite response to an opponent who begins the game with 1.e4.

2.Nf3 d6

[ Throughout her career Judit has preferred the move 2...e6 at this stage of the game.]

3.d4

Attacking in the center.

3...cxd4

4.Nxd4 Nf6
5.Nc3 a6

This move usually defines the variation being played:it is known as the Najdorf variation (named for GM Miguel Najdorf of Argentina).

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