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Ernst Flechsig vs Simon Winawer
Leipzig (1877), Leipzig GER, rd 10, Jul-21
Three Knights Opening: General (C46)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Dec-18-05
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  nasmichael: At what point is there a slight advantage for either side--or said in another way, where could a modern idea diverge from the text to improve winning chances for one side? I like looking at draw games to see "what might have been". At a crossroads of two choices, perhaps the other, equally valid, choice would have been the better one for that particular position.
Dec-18-05  aw1988: <nasmichael> And so what of this game?
May-17-09  WhiteRook48: I like 5. d4! It's the Central Fork Trick ( 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4 Nxe4 d5) reversed!
Mar-20-16  zanzibar: The tb(*) gives the draw after move 92.Kb2 like this:

<Die Partie wurde auf Vorschlag des Anziehenden jetzt endlich als remis
abgebrochen.>

which google translates as:

<The game was at the suggestion of Attracting finally as draw canceled.>

Can we determine who offered the draw from the above?

(*) G-59 153/167

Mar-21-16  luftforlife: <zanzibar>: "Now, finally, the game ended in a draw by mutual agreement."

"des Anziehenden" connotes those consenting to or governed by a pulling, a tightening, a contraction, or an attraction (such as gravitational pull); -- and so the players came together, and finally agreed to call the game a draw.

The phrase "auf Vorschlag des Anziehenden" appears in several coeval Veit & Co. publications; it was employed in the day not only by Emil Schallopp (here and elsewhere), but also by Curt von Bardeleben and Hermann von Gottschall. I have cross-citations and links if you would like them.

Mar-21-16  luftforlife: Here is a link to the source quoted by <zanzibar>, viz. Emil Schallopp, Der Schachkongress zu Leipzig im Juli 1877 (Leipzig: Veit & Comp. 1878), "Gespielte Partien: Meisterturnier," Game No. 59, E. Flechsig - S. Winawer, 153-54, at 154:

https://books.google.com/books?id=w...

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