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Garry Kasparov vs Veselin Topalov
Linares (2005), Linares ESP, rd 7, Mar-02
Spanish Game: Closed Variations (C84)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Mar-02-05
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  Sneaky: The pawns are NOT symmetrical. Surely one side is slightly better?
Mar-02-05  Stevens: <<cu8sfan> May we say that it looks a bit drawish now?>> oh, go on then... :-(
Mar-02-05
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  tpstar: Sorry, I'm disappointed in Topalov splitting the point so soon. Black has a clear advantage in space, and any Pawn weaknesses at e5 and d5 will be hard to exploit before Black gains more space. Perhaps this would have ground out into a draw anyway, but White made nothing out of the opening here.
Mar-02-05  arielbekarov: Just back ! The light went out !
And being back, I see, it's a draw.

Well, that's chesslife !
Thanks for nice company !
Greetings !
Ariel

Mar-02-05  e4Newman: <For games like this maybe we should have a Pouting Rook!>

here here!!!

Mar-02-05  chesscookie: This was a poor result (for us). They went, like, 3 moves ahead of theory.
Mar-02-05  white pawn: Very disappointing indeed. I'm sure glad I didn't skip work today to stay home and watch, of course, I can watch some of it at work anyway :-x
Mar-02-05  Catfriend: The official draw officially depressed me. Come on, you're the world elite, the games between you gave the world some of the best gems ever. You're in Linares! Kaspy, in Linares 1994 you played better...I almost don't complain about early draws, but this game gave me high expectations and returning to the live-page only to see such a game with no struggle was painful.
Mar-02-05  csmath: The position is very balanced and there is little that either player could do. Nevertheless black is the one with some initiative and he should have to find something. Topalov apparently could not see anything therefore draw.

It looks that Kasparov stopped playing a4 anti-Marshall, given this game and the one with Shirov in 2004 Linares but with h3 he is not successful recently.

I started playing a4 and it is very hard to gain any ground but with h3 I feel it is better for black. Other super GMs are allowing Marshall recently.

Mar-02-05  csmath: Kasparov h3 anti-Marshall problems:

Kasparov vs Kramnik, 2003

Kasparov vs Bacrot, 2004

Kasparov vs Shirov, 2004

and now this game.

Mar-02-05  patzer2: You know after 1. e4 e5 it is very hard for super GMs to find a winning plan. It looks pretty equal, so maybe they should have just agreed to a draw at that point.
Mar-02-05  csmath: I think 2. Nf3 looks good. LOL
Mar-02-05  csmath: Last two wins Kasparov in anti-Marshall was with a4:

Kasparov vs E Vladimirov, 2001 (rapid)

Kasparov vs Leko, 2001

Mar-02-05  psalcido: All draws in less than 35 moves should be -1/2 for each player. That'd make the game more interesting.
Mar-02-05  Dashingknight: Looking at all three of todays games ?! now i know why TV isn't interested in covering chess :-(
Mar-02-05  Granite: What a waste of a chess games, these two should be ashamed.
Mar-02-05  InfinityCircuit: Hilarious! I plugged it into Fritz 8 and all it said was that 17.Be3 was the last book move. No other improvements could be found! Does this really mean that chess is dead drawn? LOL
Mar-02-05  shortsight: surprisingly, kasparov has no piece pass the 3rd rank, thus a draw accepted!
Mar-02-05  WillC21: <psalcido> I agree, and even a harsher punishment should be laid down on Leko and Pons would have a 13-mover. Maybe subtract a full point(-1) from them?
Mar-02-05  InfinityCircuit: I am time and time again surprised and amused by people lambasting players for short draws. Personally, I don't see the virulence behind them. It seems to me that if this is the choice the players make, the people have no right to second guess them. I'd prefer to see one game of fighting chess and ten draws than no chess games because of some stupid restriction for short draws.
Mar-03-05  csmath: It occurs to me that on this game page nobody is really discussing this particular game. That is sort of interesting.
Mar-03-05  TheSlid: <It occurs to me that on this game page nobody is really discussing this particular game> What game?
Mar-03-05  acirce: <<acirce: This could of course be a relatively short/safe draw with Kasparov ahead and Topalov black> Well predicted acrice!>

Well, you left out the "but probably not" part. ;-) But yes, I felt in the given tournament situation this could well happen.

Sep-29-07  7Heaven: Kasparov won Linares 2005 because he beat Topalov in tiebreak.Are tiebrake games in database? If not, can I find them elsewhere?
Sep-29-07  notyetagm: <7Heaven: Kasparov won Linares 2005 because he beat Topalov in tiebreak.Are tiebrake games in database? If not, can I find them elsewhere?>

The first tiebreak was number of Black wins. Since Kasparov had 4 Black wins (I think) to Topalov's 1 or 2, there were no tiebreak games played

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