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Viswanathan Anand vs Michael Adams
Linares (2005), Linares ESP, rd 14, Mar-10
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  0-1

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Mar-11-05
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  patzer2: Adams' 24...Bf6! is a pin which sets up a second and decisive pin with the followup 27...Bb7! The combination gains a pawn to give Adams two central passers and the win.
Mar-11-05  iron maiden: <Everett>, that's exactly my reasoning. History will always remember Kasparov as great, but it will also take note of the fact that he retired before the next Kasparov came along.

Not that I blame the guy, of course. Kasparov's desire for competition is what has kept him going at the world championship level for over twenty years, and if that desire has been blunted, there's no point in continuing. He's already rewritten virtually every record in the books anyway.

Mar-12-05  arjunkakar: <Iron maiden :that's exactly my reasoning. History will always remember Kasparov as great, but it will also take note of the fact that he retired before the next Kasparov came along.> Do you even read what you write before posting it? Your posts are a classic example of a person - first deciding what he feels is right and then using every logic (howsoever flawed) to defend that point. Be objective and u will make a lesser fool of yoruself. Let em ask you one simple question Mr remarkable analyst. Give me one - ok one example of any champion in any sport in anytime ever losing his credibility becuase he didnt wait for another person of his starure before retiring? Do we ever say OH pele isnt great cos he didnt wait for a maradonna to come along? Gimme a break.
Mar-12-05  Orbitkind: iron maiden, I didn't think you'd be a candidate for my ignore list. You're on it now though after your pure crap about the most successful chess player in history. Maybe there is more to life than living chess (as a professional must do) and Kasparov is miraculously young given everything he has achieved so he has a great life of writing and whatever else he wants to do ahead of him.
Mar-12-05  iron maiden: <arjunkakar> Please calm down and examine what you read before responding to it.

My post: <History will always remember Kasparov as great, but it will also take note of the fact that he retired before the next Kasparov came along.>

Your post: <Do we ever say OH pele isnt great cos he didnt wait for a maradonna to come along?>

Absolutely not, as my above post makes explicitly clear. So please stop pidgeonholing me as one who detracts from Kasparov's achievements. I wish you wouldn't accuse me of not reading my posts, because the fact of the matter is that you are the one who is not paying attention to them.

<Orbitkind> You probably can't read this, but what do you mean by my "pure crap about the most successful chess player in history?" I'd rather you ignore me than insult me, but you seem to be doing both at once.

Mar-13-05  shortsight: I supposed everyone could see by now why i said "your kramnik" to <iron maiden>. He is one very fine examples of critics, who simply enjoy critisizing the great one. why so anti-kasparov? it turns out that the great one obstructed his idol from becoming as great.
Mar-13-05  Champ Supernova: <iron maiden> well done in your response to arjunkakar. Stupid/ignorant people like him should be put in place.
Mar-13-05  Phoenix: You know, there's been a lot of dumb, stupid attacks by members against other members on this site. I don't remember there being so many when I first joined up.
Mar-13-05  iron maiden: <shortsight> If by "my idol" you refer to Kramnik then you are quite far from the truth. I'm a large Anand fan. I also root for Adams, Grischuk, Polgar, and Leko (if you check any of the games from Switzerland last year you'll find that I pulled for him to beat Kramnik). However, a lot of biased Kasparov fans have vilified Kramnik so much that I understand how I could be mistaken for one of his supporters, since I try to pronounce my judgements with an objective viewpoint and not with hackneyed insults like "Drawnik" or "coward."
Mar-13-05  shortsight: <iron maiden> likewise, i don't support calling names. but, your posts already indirectly calling Kasparov a coward. he's been the best for more than 20 years, and there's nothing for him to prove. it's not for you to judge if he should quit or not, not to mention criticise.
Mar-14-05  shortsight: <<iron maiden> ... Kasparov's hurting himself more than anyone, since he'll go down in history as a man who was unwilling to face the bad side of his career.>

well, i think it's you who's unwilling to accept the fact that kasparov is still #1 and no one is able to wrestle his spot until he retires. and you are unwilling to face the fact that your hope that you'll one day see some one replace kasparov while he's still active as the best in the world will never materialise.

Mar-14-05  iron maiden: <it's not for you to judge if he should quit or not, not to mention criticise.> This is a site for opinions, and I have just as much of a right to criticize his decision as you have a right to defend and praise it.

<well, i think it's you who's unwilling to accept the fact that kasparov is still #1 and no one is able to wrestle his spot until he retires. and you are unwilling to face the fact that your hope that you'll one day see some one replace kasparov while he's still active as the best in the world will never materialise.> No, I've faced it, accepted it, and am now offering my opinions on the matter. I agree that Kasparov was probably the best player in the world from 1985 to 2005, with a few exceptions and question marks (Anand '98, Kramnik in 2000, and so forth.) I just don't like the fact that he's giving it up now when he still has an indefinite period of success ahead of him, even if it's not as the undisputed #1 anymore.

Mar-14-05  kasparovisking: gentlemen, lets kill this debate once and for all.. kasparov has undesputedly been the best player not only over the last 2-3 decades, but the entire century

time and again he has given chances to his opponents who have failed, also reflected in his overall individual record and records against each player. he has always been a great and the greatest thing he has done for the game of chess is that he retires so as to give others also chance and hence encouraging competition.

we all always seem to remember the once in lifetime feats/achievements of players - kramnik in matchup/anand in '98 etc etc.. whereas we seem to really cherish the 'once only' success of these lesser players, we seem to ignore the mightiest of achievements of world champions because they have already done so much that any further achievements will look insignificant.. we seem to forget that kasparov still has the skills so much better than all these guys that he can train them like school kids in the game of chess..

for people like michael schmacher in f1 and kasparov in chess, what makes the headlines is when they lose, and not when they win - but they are the best and will ermain (schumi in presen generation in his field and kasparov across all generations in his field) dont act kiddish now, and lets face it - KASPAROV WAS KING - IS KING - WILL ALWAYS REMAIN KING, even after his retirement!

so lets grow up guys and 'salute' the unselfish and great decision of the UNDESPUTED KING!

Mar-14-05  BlazingArrow56: Fischer rules. =P
Mar-14-05  shortsight: <<iron Maiden> This is a site for opinions, and I have just as much of a right to criticize his decision as you have a right to defend and praise it> Yeah right, and i thought you didn't know that! And this is my opinion when i said this: "Chess is already half dead without kasparov." So what the fuss is about with you? And all along, i've just giving my opinions, and my opinion is that, you are completely wrong with this: <I just don't like the fact that he's giving it up now>. Who are you for him to please? So, what can you do if you don't like it? There's nothing you can do other than whining in this site. i really pity you.
Mar-14-05
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  me to play: <Phoenix: You know, there's been a lot of dumb, stupid attacks by members against other members on this site. I don't remember there being so many when I first joined up. >

Amen,brother...insulting members and whatever player they support seems to have become the primary "sport" on the site. The sad thing is that it is a relatively small group of posters dragging it down. I know that I, and probably also Phoenix,et al joined to improve our chess and be part of a friendly group of chess enthusiasts. The key word being friendly...lately that has been hard to find. :(

Mar-14-05
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  cu8sfan: <me to play> This place is still very friendly compared to other places on the web. There are always some spoilers. I have started to use my ignore button more often now.
Mar-14-05
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  me to play: cu8sfan, I agree,it is a good site. The ignore button is handy...the fact that I seem to need it so often is unfortunate.
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: i dont wanna sound dumb but i probably will, but how do u go about getting an offical rating
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: anybody :(
Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: <Rocafella: i dont wanna sound dumb but i probably will, but how do u go about getting an offical rating >

You have to play in rated events. If you live in the US, try searching here for events: http://www.uschess.org/tla/statelis...

If you live in a larger city, they may have a chess club (try a google search) that holds smaller rated events that are not listed in the link.

Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: Oh and you'll get a better response if you post a question like this in the Kibitizer's cafe section, not a specific game, which is designed to comment on the game only.
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: <chris00nj> thanks a lot, i'll have to do the search coz i live in england. Yeh your probably right about the café but, im new here so like i say, im dumb lol :), and im only 14... kids these days ;)
Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: <Rocafella> Well welcome to chess. You live in England which is good because chess is much more popular than in the US per capita.

I played in Scotland for a while, up in Aberdeen, but the Scots have their own seperate chess assosciation from the English. Here's the English main website: http://www.bcf.org.uk/

Mar-14-05  iron maiden: <kasparovisking>, LOL.

<shortsight> You have the right to hold your opinion, and I have the right to hold mine. Sure we can debate them, but we're really going to get nowhere, especially if you persist in making statements like <there's nothing you can do other than whining in this site. i really pity you.> after your arguments have been refuted. So I'm going to terminate this off-topic discussion. You may post whatever you like on the matter, but I will withhold my participation out of respect for Mickey Adams, <Phoenix>, <me to play>, and others in this community who are doubtless tired of these kinds of dogmatic debates.

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