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Aron Nimzowitsch vs Systemsson
"The Immortal Overprotection Game" (game of the day Apr-01-2009)
Composition (1927) (probably analysis), Copenhagen
French Defense: General (C00)  ·  1-0

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Apr-01-05  Catfriend: LOL Hintza! The fact is that
you're a marvellous player and a very funny one, even if the whole chess world bursts with envy:)
Apr-01-05  hintza: <The fact is that you're a marvellous player and a very funny one> Wrong on two counts I believe!

:-)

Apr-01-05
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  cu8sfan: <can you stand descriptive notation?> No I can't stand it. Whenever possible I download the pgn and just read the notes in the book.
Apr-01-05
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  Marius: I think the idea of this joke comes from this game :
Nimzowitsch vs Hakansson, 1922
Apr-01-05  Eatman: <Marius>, I think you are correct. That game is very similar to today's game.
Apr-01-05  maoam: <Marco65>

I would recommend reading both Pachman's "Modern Chess Strategy" and "My System." But if I had to choose between the two I would go with Pachman. The descriptive notation isn't really an issue if you have access to a large database of games in PGN format (like this one! I'm gradually adding to my collection Game Collection: Pachman's Modern Chess Strategy). However, the game fragments are difficult to identify sometimes, so you'll probably find it easiest to enter the positions by hand. A while back I posted a crude summary of the book at Ludek Pachman, hopefully that will help you make your mind up.

Apr-01-05  acirce: I think the April Fool's joke of Chessbase is to fool people that http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... is a joke.
Apr-01-05
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  mahmoudkubba: Over protection on what thing?? please to cheassgames.com to tell us as soon as possible!!
Apr-01-05  Runemaster: <acirce> LOL - the anti-draw forces never give up! This is a new challenge for you to confront. I expect this plan might result in a lot of triple repetitions.
Apr-01-05  maoam: <mahmoudkubba>

The e5 square is the thing being overprotected.

Apr-01-05
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  keypusher: Great choice, chessgames.com. Happy April Fools Day, everyone!
Apr-01-05
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  patzer2: Funny Stuff for April Fools Day! Of course, in reality, instead of 23...gxf3??, as <John Tal> notes, Black should play 23...Qb1+! with a quick mate [23...Qb1+ 24.Bc1 (24.Nc1 Rxc1+ 25.Bxc1 Ba4+ 26.Kd2 Qc2#) 24...Rxc1+ 25.Nxc1 Ba4+ 26.Kd2 Qc2#].

Black can join the fun and end the farce early with the winning counter 8...Ng4! 9.Qg3 h5! 10.f3? (other moves actually lose, but this is fun and instructive) 10...Bh6! 11.fxg4 (11.Bxh6 Qxb2+) 11...Bxc1+.

Apr-01-05  hintza: <I expect this plan might result in a lot of triple repetitions.> Yes, MTEL could well lead to some hilariously engineered threefold repetitions!
Apr-01-05  AdrianP: http://www.sissa.nl/0-0-0s/2002_03/...

I'm sure I saw this or something similar at www.chesscafe.com as well.

Apr-01-05  maoam: <AdrianP>

Indeed, Kmoch's parody is available at http://www.chesscafe.com/text/mysys...

Apr-01-05  AgentRgent: <Marco65: I heard from a strong master that Nimzowitsch's overprotection is a concept that didn't pass the test of time> I think that many people misunderstand the role of overprotection. Nimzowitsch's advocated overprotection because it serves an important dual role. First, the protection of the pawn, piece, or square. But more importantly, it allows freedom of movement for the defending pieces! For instance, if a pawn (perhaps on e5 ;-D) is attacked by two pieces, but guarded by 3, then ANY of those defenders is free to move, thus allowing plans to be undertaken in various ways. If the pawn is only guarded by 2 pieces then those defenders are, in effect, pinned and immobile. It is this freedom of movement that is the deceptive strength of overprotection.
Apr-01-05  Ezzy: I just think this is down right bad analysis. Why didn't 24 Bg5 mate also get an exclamation mark(or 2)!! According to theory, and percentage of games won, perhaps 1 e4 should deserve one too(or 2)!!! Extremely bad analysis <chessgames.com.> Please don't make fools of yourself, by dropping your analytical standards. Also 19 Re2 is a deep plan preparing the doubling of rooks on the 'e' file, and yet it doesn't get any mark. What's going on - <chessgames. com>
Apr-01-05
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  cu8sfan: <Ezzy>

1. Get coffee
2. Check calendar
3. Read recent kibitzing
4. Smile!

(-:

Apr-01-05  Marco65: <AgentRgent> Interesting point actually. I read My System in my youth and I don't remember overprotection explained that way. Even that master shouldn't have grabbed it! I think anyway this comes useful in few situations, when you need flexibility to choose which piece to free. In most cases you plan in advance which pieces are better used to defend your weak points and which can be used for another purpose.

I don't remember I saw overprotection in the opening lines I study, I would be glad to know some examples where this kind of flexibility is actually of use.

In conclusion I think the concept can be very dangerous to beginners, that would place all their pieces passively to defend all their weak points!

Apr-01-05  Ezzy: confirm:

Apr-01-05
<cu8sfan: <Ezzy>

1. Get coffee
2. Check calendar
3. Read recent kibitzing
4. Smile!>
<cuBsfan> 1 Pour yourself a large(very large) Brandy. 2 Read my post again, very carefully. 3 Drink the Brandy 4 Forget that you ever sent your last post.

Apr-01-05  AgentRgent: <Marco65> The game vs. Hakansson cited previously by Marius (Nimzowitsch vs Hakansson, 1922) is a good example. See the notes (esp. on Blacks 18th).
Apr-01-05  Stevens: <agentrgent> thanks for that, i've never looked at overprotection like that. I only encountered the theory in "Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy - Advances since Nimzovich" which is excellent, but it didn't give the view you gave on overprotections advantages.
Apr-01-05  Stevens: <cu8sfan> the best bit of ezzy's post is <Please don't make fools of yourself> Fantastic! If that was all sarcastic then it was brilliant. But i fear it wasn't. I have to admit, the full extent of the joke was lost on me the first time i ran through the game. I was thinking "my god, Nimzo was an arrogant sod!"
Apr-01-05  Stevens: <ezzy> well done for taking the joke so well. Your last post was really funny too ;-)
Apr-01-05  hintza: <I was thinking "my god, Nimzo was an arrogant sod!"> Well he probably was really , but I see where you are coming from in your post.

<Please don't make fools of yourself> is classic for a couple of reasons!

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