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Hugo Lopez Silva vs Luis Alberto Rojas Keim
"Red Hot Chile" (game of the day Apr-11-2005)
II Copa ENTEL (2005), Santiago CHI, rd 1, Mar-15
French Defense: Winawer Variation (C15)  ·  0-1

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Apr-11-05  Milo: 27...Rxf4 is too much for me to puzzle out. What happens if just 28.Rxg6 ?
Apr-11-05  TheParadigm: Then Black is up a bishop and white is getting into even more trouble as he loses a tempo retreating the rook.
Apr-11-05  Milo: Heh, I missed 28.Rxc4
Apr-11-05  Milo: That should be 28...Rxc4.

Also, what if 28.Qxc2 ?

Apr-11-05  Milo: nevermind
Apr-11-05  cuendillar: Is the pawn ending after 33.Re8+ dead lost, or does the more active white king give drawing chances?
Apr-11-05  maxxowar: 18... Qxc2! leads to a quite good advantage for black. 19 Nxc2 Nd4+ or 19 Bxc2 Bxg4 20 h3 Bh5 and gets better and better for black.
Apr-11-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <maxxowar> you must be talking about 18...♕xd2
Apr-11-05  maxxowar: oh right!
Apr-11-05  EmperorAtahualpa: I believe some more defensive play around the 12th move would have done good for White, e.g. 12.O-O-O or 12.♗f3. What do you guys think?
Apr-11-05  laskerdog: I agree with "cuendillar". Obviously a much better defence for white than threatening the black queen. A single pawn down is probably compensated by a very active king: 33. Re8+, BxR, 34.RxB+, Qg8 35.RxQ+, KxR,all moves forced, then what? 36.Kg4 or f4, this is beyond my capacity, what does the machinery evaluate? Anyhow; very agressive play from both players
Apr-11-05
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  kevin86: The pieces go flying in this one! At one time,black forks king and queen,but gains nothing as his own queen is en prise at the time!
Apr-11-05
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  patzer2: The deflection 27...Rxf4! ignores the attack on the Queen and initiates a strong defensive combination, with a winning counter attack.
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  patzer2: Black's 18...Qg6! sets up either a strong discovered attack as in the game or a decisive pin after 20. Ke3 Rfe8 .
Apr-11-05  Saruman: <laskerdog><cuendillar> That endgame is certainly lost for white. Try to play against someone else and you will see. Since black will just consolidate on the king-side and then play b6 and c5 to get a passed pawn. Finally when the white king goes to the queen-side black will snatch the king-side pawns and win.
Apr-12-05  laskerdog: <Saruman> Trading a pair of rooks for Q & B seems to me would improve white's odds though, but may be white's 26th move is the critical one. What about 26.Rc1 instead, putting the pressure on 7th row? If white could attac g7, combining Be5 / Rh6, the progres looks promising.
Apr-12-05  cuendillar: <Saruman> It's not that straightforward. b5 is a strong response to b6, blocking both the a and c-pawn. Black has to prepare it a lot.

Probably it is necessary to establish a protected passed pawn on the kingside first, probably by an early h5, and then move the king over to the queenside.

PS. When I took white in that pawn ending, I actually won some games. White's space edge is seemingly important. White is clearly worse, but in practical play it isn't child's play to convert.

Apr-12-05  Ruylopez: The subheading "Red Hot Chile" is racist and patronizing even if that was not the intention of the writer. It's similar to bringing up watermelon when talking about African Americans.
Apr-12-05  Shams: <Ruylopez> This game was played in Chile...you are being over-sensitive. And your comparison is faulty. Lighten up, Ruy!
Apr-14-05  Saruman: <cuendillar> Actually I meant c6, when its not that difficult to win. The trick is to give white the king opposition but then brake it with pawn moves.
May-13-05  notyetagm: Wow, just an insanely complex position after 13 ... ♘e5.
Aug-13-05  Ferdyrojo: Another diversion from maese Lucho Rojas! Let's see: 18. ... Qg6(?!) is an absurdity (nonsense, as Dr.Lasker would put it). The total exchange is the best way for Black to hold up his edge derived from his orthodox opening. 18. ...QxQd2+; 19. NxQd2 NxNd2; 20. BxNd2 Bxg4+ (20. Kxd2 Rd8+), isn't it? Yet 18. ... Qg6 offers a rich tactical play for Black. It is the psychological side (the struggle of minds) expecting for the opponent to make a mistake. And frequently the weaker side does go wrong. 26. Rae1 is a mistake because the correct move is Qxc7. "Sic transit magister glory".

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