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R Hopton vs F Eastwood
Unknown (1860) (correspondence), Postal
Dutch Defense: Hopton Attack (A80)  ·  0-1

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Jul-22-05  FinKing: <Kids> please, do not try this at home
Jul-22-05
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  OhioChessFan: Go ahead, make.......my.........day.
Dec-07-05  Chopin: That has got to hurt!
Dec-17-05  Madman99X: That is ugly.
Mar-23-06  blingice: Try to play this one out in your head using the Text display. It was very hard for me, probably because I'm not familiar with this opening at all.
Dec-08-06  Ch3ckmate: i dont get it...tell me why white resigned?
Dec-08-06  Cyphelium: <Ch3ckmate> After 6.- ♕b4+ 7. c3 or 7. ♘d2 or whatever, black plays ♕xh4 winning the bishop.
Dec-09-06  Ch3ckmate: darn, so obvious i didnt even think about it..heh thanks
Jan-29-07  LaSmitedCrab: This....was...postal...loss...in...6 moves?!
Jan-29-07  laskereshevsky: HELLO FOLKS

maybe <Hopton> was under the gun.....

<Eastwood>.....<Eastwood>.....mmmhhhh...... this name remind me something.....mh mh...
i donnow....something about a latin word
followed by a number ..... sooooo..... wellllll......maybe 44 MAGNUM?!?!

Feb-27-07  MrPatzer: This "Hopton Attack" does not impress me much.
Jun-07-09  WhiteRook48: 6 Bxf6 may be better, causing black the pain of doubled pawns
Jan-02-10
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  wordfunph: <FinKing: <Kids> please, do not try this at home>

lol!

Jan-02-10  zanshin: I'm not quite sure how this game got through the <CG> quality controls ;-)

If anyone's curious, Black could not try the Noah's Ark trap with <3...g5 4.Bg3 f4> because of <5.e3!> threatening exf4 or Qh5#


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Jan-02-10  Nullifidian: <WhiteRook48: 6 Bxf6 may be better, causing black the pain of doubled pawns>

Black can capture the bishop with the queen. It doesn't allow White to win a free pawn because of 7. ♙dxc5?? ♕xa1. Still, you're correct that it's better than the game move.

Mar-26-12
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  Domdaniel: < This "Hopton Attack" does not impress me much.>

Change your thinking on this. OK, Hopton himself didn't have a happy experience first time out -- but 40 years later Marshall and other New York players began to use 2.Bg5 against the Dutch. Later still, it was used by Bronstein. Today it is one of a number of highly fashionable Anti-Dutch lines, along with 2.Nc3 and 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.h3 e6 4.g4.

With 2.Bg5 White sets Black an immediate problem, as 2...Nf6 (a natural move in most lines of the Dutch) is simply bad. White plays Bxf6 and gets both a positional advantage and an attack.

So black has to be more subtle. 2...h6 is playable, but gets wild and crazy. I think Andrew Martin suggested the more solid 2...c6 in a DVD on this line.

Mr Hopton's opening ideas were ahead of their time. And also maybe a little ahead of his playing ability, but hey - we all make mistakes.

Mar-26-12  waustad: There was a rather horrid beverage called "Hoppin Gator" some decades ago. Perhaps that could be turned into a pun or the day.
Dec-22-13  solskytz: Missed it by a hair!
Apr-05-15
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  thegoodanarchist: GOTD Pun: Hang 'em High

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061747/

Oct-06-20
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  FSR: Hopton has exactly one game in the database, this six-move loss. As White in a correspondence game, no less. Apparently on this authority of this game, 2.Bg5 is known as the "Hopton Attack." If I lose a game in six moves, can I get an opening line named after me?
Oct-06-20
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  perfidious: The etymology of opening lines can be strange and inconsistent; numerous other variations have borne the names of players who adopted them well after their earliest recorded voyages in the seas of Dame Theory.

While having often played 2.Bg5 across the years, I had never known who Hopton was till now.

Oct-08-20
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  FSR: <perfidious> I too am a 2.Bg5 aficionado. Despite a couple of hours of research, I haven't been able to find out who named it the Hopton Attack. Probably a bit of humor by Eric Schiller or someone else.
Oct-08-20
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  moronovich: There is a lot of poison to 2.Bg5.
But if Black knows how to respond,he is fine/ok,compared to the mainlines.
Oct-08-20
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  perfidious: <moronovich>, a case in point from your humble narrator's last serious event, the last time I played 2.Bg5--bit hard to believe nearly twenty years have gone since: A Shaw vs J A Curdo, 2001.
Oct-08-20
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  moronovich: <perfidious> Oh,dear how time flies...
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