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Beer vs Gustav Neumann
Casual game (1866), Jicin AUH, Aug-??
Scotch Game: Classical Variation (C45)  ·  0-1



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Oct-03-07  porgue: does this game mean that neumann overcame alcoholism or something? very strange...
Oct-07-07  darth pawn: Hahaha Neumann owned alcohol ROFL.

The Neumann entry says he stopped playing after 1872 due to mental illness. Are you sure it wasn't because he became an alcoholic??

Oct-20-07  whiteshark: The art of Beer.
May-26-08  Wone Jone: buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: So drinking Beer does not pay off. Long live the Beer and ? pages!
Dec-24-08  WhiteRook48: So Beer + Scotch game + a hurricane for an opponent= not good = 0-1
Dec-24-08  Ychromosome: If 20.Kf1 Qg4 21.Rec1 (gxh4 Qh3+ 22.Kg1 Qg2#) Rxh2 mating
Jan-09-09  WhiteRook48: it's funny how Beer played the Scotch Game.
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: White was drinking himself and Scotch
Feb-21-09  WhiteRook48: not good for Beer to play the Scotch Game (C45)
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  stoy: The Austro-Prussian war was fought in 1866. The battle of Gitschin was fought near Jicin. Does the player "Beer" have anything to do with the war?
Sep-27-11  henry55: Baron von Beer was a German (Prussian) from Pomerania, he was too early players of Berliner Schachgesellschaft
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  FSR: Downing a Beer.
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  sleepyirv: That's a Scotch with a Beer chaser.
Aug-22-13  GumboGambit: Since the Scotch Game left Beer feeling hungover, maybe his next game should have employed the Nescafe Frappe Attack as a remedy?
Jan-26-15  RookFile: I'll drink to that!
May-13-15  A.T PhoneHome: "Beast by yeast" - Mikhail Tal on Scotch Game
Aug-11-15  zanzibar: 11...f5 is a nice break by Black.

White really has to play 12.Nd2 to stay even. The slide-by gives Black the play he wants...

After 12...f4

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And the move 13.Bxf4 is fatal given the pins on f,g-files (and if 14.Ne2, then 14...Bg4 shows who's boss).

May-29-16  thegoodanarchist: Beer goes down easily.
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  perfidious: Many have found themselves unable to overcome Beer, and it took a great player to do so in this miniature.
Dec-15-16  ColeTrane: Drinking a double IPA from CO actually right now.....
Mar-20-17  ChessHigherCat: <zanzibar: 11...f5 is a nice break by Black.

White really has to play 12.Nd2 to stay even.>

Hi <zanzibar>, do you mean 12. Bd2? If 12. Nd2 then fxe3 13. Qxe3 and Beer has gone flat

Mar-20-17  zanzibar: <CHC> I think there's some confusion between the 12th and 13th moves.

I did mean 12.Nd2, since I was referring to the 12th move after 11...f5.

(The move 12...fxe3 is impossible)

But I then went on to diagram the situation after 12...f4, so White's 13th move.

(Now, 13...fxe3 is possible, thought 13.Nd2 isn't - as I think you were pointing out).

Sorry - maybe I should have be a little more explicit (though I did say after 12...f4).

Mar-21-17  ChessHigherCat: <zanzibar> Okay, sorry, I should stop looking at diagrams and notation at the same time because I always get confused like that (I thought I must have misunderstood since nobody else had commented on it in 2 years :-). Your move 12. Nd2 looks much better than the game line. I was looking at 12...f4, 13. Bxf4 (forced) Qf6 but it doesn't look like black gets any decisive counterplay.
Jan-29-23  generror: Beer plays Scotch? No wonder it lost. Never mix!!
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