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Heinrich Philipp Schlemm vs Samuel Wranay
"Shlemiel, Shlemazl" (game of the day Jul-13-2012)
Vienna (1872), Vienna AUH
Bishop's Opening: Urusov Gambit. Keidansky Gambit (C24)  ·  1-0



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  An Englishman: Good Evening: The American humor magazine seems rather fond of "schmendrik," which allegedly Yiddish for "stupid person."

The game itself features one of the strangest looking double checks ever. But what happens after 14...a6?

Jul-13-12  Djoker: <shaikriyaz> Why 15>. ... Ke4? seems like a waste of tempo to me as white develops knight with a check...instead if black does 15> ... Kf4 he gets a valuable chance to bring a piece in play.
Jul-13-12  Djoker: <An Englishman> with 14...a6 if you are thinking of 15>Rc6+ Ka7 then 16>Bb6# if you aren't thinking of Ka7, then I'll say that a6 is pretty pointless.
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  HeMateMe: Yiddish Germans, working in a Milwaukee brewery? Maybe. Plenty of Germans came to Milwaukee, much beer was brewed. Laverne and Shirley, two working glass beer girls. "Fat Slags" lite.

Laverne DeFazio--if there was ever a better hollywood name for a "one-nighter" girl, I haven't seen it.

Jul-13-12  this is a sign: <Djoker> 15..Kf4 16. Bg5+ and white checkmates on the next move.
Jul-13-12  Djoker: <this is a sign> Right. My bad. I thought Ke4 would be available...but its not It will be mate by Nc3#
Jul-13-12  akatombo: 13...Kd6 14.Bxc7+ Ke7 15.Nc3 Kf6 16.Nd5+ Kf5 17.g4+ leads to mate. If 16...Kg5 17.f4+ also leads to mate.
Jul-13-12  shaikriyaz: <Djoker> if. 15..Kf4 16.Bg5+ now king has two squares to move
if 16..Kg4 17.h3#
if 16..Ke4 17.Nc3/Nd2#
ends a move earlier than my line:-)
Jul-13-12  aidfarh: What happens after 14...Ka6? After 15. Rxc8 Be7 I don't see how White can continue the offensive.
Jul-13-12  Shams: <aidfarh> What about 14...Ka6 15.Nc3<?>
Jul-13-12  Djoker: <shaikriyaz> You are right...I missed <this is a sign> pointed out
Jul-13-12  psmith: <shams> is right! 14...Ka6 15. Nc3 is winning in all variations, as can easily be verified using any program. Here are some sample lines from analysis with Fritz 5.32: 14... Ka6 15. Nc3 b6 16. Bc4+ Ka5 17. Bb5 Nc2 18. Rxc8 Be7 (18... h6 19. b4+ Kxb4 20. Nd3+ Ka3 21. Nb1+ Kxa2 22. Rxc2+ Kxb1 23. Rc1+ Ka2 24. Bc4+ Ka3 25. Ra1#) 19. Nc4+ Kb4 20. Bxe7+ d6 21. Bxd6#
Jul-13-12  gofer: I like the symmetry that can be found after 13 ... Kd6

13 ... Kd6
14 Bxc7+ Ke7 (forced)
15 Nc3! Kf6 (forced)
16 Nd5+ ...

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16 ... Kf5 17 g4+ Kg5 (Ke4 Rc4#) 18 Bd8+ mating

16 ... Kg5 17 h4+! (Kh6 Ng4# or Kxh4 18 Nf3+ Kg4 19 Ne3#) Kf5 18 g4+ Ke4 19 Rc4#

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  kevin86: An amusing finale,four pieces are behind black's king and only a knight in front.

A queen sac in seven...Spraggett once did it in five!

Jul-13-12  Nullifidian: <An Englishman: The game itself features one of the strangest looking double checks ever. But what happens after 14...a6?>

A double-check and a mate in three that occurs as in the game — 15... ♔a7 would be mate in one with 16. ♗b6#.

Jul-13-12  RandomVisitor: black should decline the queen sacrifice and get the better game play:

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

[-0.81] d=21 7...d6 8.Bxe6 Bxe6 9.Qa4+ c6 10.Nf3 Be7 11.Re1 0-0 12.Qb4 Qd7 13.Bf4 c5 14.Qd2 Nc6 15.Nc3 d5 16.Ng5 Rad8 17.Nxe6 fxe6

Jul-13-12  The Last Straw: this is how i used to beat my dad
Jul-13-12  JoergWalter: <The Last Straw: this is how i used to beat my dad> are we (half)brothers and don't know it???
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  eternaloptimist: <Phony> yeah I recognized the phrase "schlemiel, schlimazel" from <Laverne & Shirley> as well. I used to watch it during the late 70s & early 80s when I was a kid. That phrase is based off of a Yiddish-American hopscotch chant. It's a good pun & Schlemm wove a nice mating net. Needless to say black played very poorly & didn't analyze much at all or analyzed very poorly & as a result paid the price for it.
Jul-13-12  zakkzheng: agamebeautifullyplayedbywhite.
Jul-13-12  RandomVisitor: Does white have a stronger attack with 12.Ne5+ ?

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

[+2.51] d=21 12...Kb6 13.Nc3 a6 14.Rac1 Nc6 15.Nxc6 dxc6 16.Rxc2 Bf5 17.Rd2 Bd6 18.Bg5 Ka7 19.Re1 Rhf8 20.Bh5 g6 21.Bf3 Rae8 22.Be4 Bxe4 23.Rxe4 c5 24.Bh6 Rg8 25.Rde2 Rxe4 26.Rxe4 Rd8 27.Bg5 Rd7

Jul-14-12  psmith: <RandomVisitor>: the Rybka analysis shows that 12. Ne5+ is good for White. But why is it stronger? What is the better defense after the game continuation?
Oct-09-20  par5vin: This is a very enjoyable game to watch as White runs Blacks Queen throughout the board. Very educational for those who like using the Bishop Opening.
Oct-20-20  par5vin: A very enjoyable game to watch as White zigzags Black's King throughout the board. An educational experience of the often used Bishop Opening.
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  Messiah: Terrible pun!
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