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Charles Henry Capon vs John Odin Howard Taylor
Thorpe (1873), Thorpe ENG
King Pawn Game: Dresden Opening (C44)  ·  0-1

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Aug-31-06
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  al wazir: Ah, I see it. 15. gxf3 Ke7 16. Kh2 Rg8 17. Qd4 Qf4+ 18. Kh1 Qxf3+ 19. Kh2 Rg2+ 20. Kh1 Rg3+ 21. Kh2 Rxh3+ 22. Kg1 Rh1#.
Aug-31-06  prinsallan: Bad week for me. The solution was obvious if I only hade figured it was Qxf2 and not Nxf2 that started the sequence ;/
Aug-31-06  ianD: Chessgames please note!:
Whetever this guy was on I want some of it!! check this out>>>

See his listed games...

Game #7 beat Zukertort in 23moves in 1874

Game#22 lost to Kaparov in 22moves 1993....clearly not quite at his best some 119 years later.

I'm impressed that he still had the strength to move the peieces.

Aug-31-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Missed that smothered mate completely! My guess was 15...Nxf2+.
Aug-31-06  hitman84: Nice game!
Aug-31-06  Marmot PFL: Nice variation on the smothered mate.
Aug-31-06  attica: Does black still win if white plays 15. fxg3?
Aug-31-06  zb2cr: Like <ShadowGnu>, I went for the alternate mate 17. ... Qxf1+; 18. Bxf1, Nf2#. Same theme, so I think it should count as solving the puzzle, especially since Black's 15th and 16th are the same.
Aug-31-06  2ndNature: Way too easy for Thursday...
Aug-31-06  R00K33: <ianD> Obviously at least 3 different Taylor's. Games 1-8, 9-12, 13-24.
Aug-31-06  YouRang: <al wazir: Ah, I see it. 15. gxf3 Ke7 16. Kh2 Rg8 17. Qd4 Qf4+ 18. Kh1 Qxf3+ 19. Kh2 Rg2+ 20. Kh1 Rg3+ 21. Kh2 Rxh3+ 22. Kg1 Rh1#.> Thank you, I was wondering what Black had in store if 15. gxf3.
Aug-31-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: This position was so crushing for black that he could sac the queen and even allow white to chew on a rook in the meantime. The full queen-two rook sac couldn't quite make it as the knight would mate at g3-if the queen took the second rook-making the queen sac unnecessary.
Aug-31-06  lunacyfrog: This one was shockingly easy. Particularly since there are 2 ways to mate at the end. After seeing that qxf1 wins I wouldnt have even looked for the more aesthetically pleasing qg1+
Aug-31-06  ShadowGnu: Now looking at it - I think the correct continuation for white is, 16. gxf3 Ng3+ 16. QxN QxQ 17. Bf5, doesn't lead to mate, but black is now ahead. And will win rather quickly, but there's no forced mate I see.
Aug-31-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  gawain: Saw ...Qxf2 quickly. Only had to verify that W has no dangerous series of checks with the Q.
Aug-31-06
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  al wazir: <ShadowGnu: Now looking at it - I think the correct continuation for white is, 16. gxf3 Ng3+>. Nice. That's what I wish I'd said.

But after 16. gxf3 Ng3+ 16. Qxg3 Qxg3 17. Bf5 Rg8 18. Bg4 h5 19. Rg1 Qe5 wins.

Aug-31-06  sfm: <attica: Does black still win if white plays 15. fxg3?> 15.-,Ng3+ 16.QxN,QxQ and death by mating is moves away.
Aug-31-06  scorpius: This took me a while because I thought there might be a slightly more immediate way to win
Aug-31-06  Ashram64: good puzzle Qxf2 and white just doesnt haven enough to refute.
Aug-31-06  crwynn: "I thought I had the problem cooked, I saw 15...Qxf2 but I thought it could be refuted with 16.Bd2 Ng3+ 17.Qxg3 Qxf3 18.Rxf3 where White should be able to win without much trouble."

I guess you mean 16.Be2 and 17...Qxg3, but how is this winning for White? He has two bishops for the queen; Black is the one winning after 18...Qg7.

Sep-01-06  NateDawg: After 15...♕xf2!, the only way White can avoid immediate checkmate is by playing 16. gxf3. However, Black gets a huge advantage after 16...♘g3+ 17. ♕xg3 ♕xg3 18. ♗f5.


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Now Black has the pleasant choice between 18...♕e5 19. ♗b2 ♕xf5 and 18...♖g8 19. ♗g4 h5 20. ♖g1 ♕h4 21. ♔g2 hxg4 22. hxg4, and Black is in both cases up a Queen for a Bishop and will win easily.

White would not have been any better off had he played 15. gxf3. According to analysis by Fritz 9 and Crafty 19.19, the best continuation is 15...♔e7 16. ♗xe4 ♖ag8 17. ♗b2 ♖xg7+ 18. ♗xg7 ♖g8 19. ♔h2 ♖xg7, where White has a Rook, a Bishop, and a Pawn for his Queen. 16. ♔h2 loses to 16...♖hg8 17. ♗b2 (17. ♕d4?? ♕f4+ 18. ♔h1 ♕xf3+ 19. ♔h2 ♕g2#) 17...♕f4+ 18. ♔g1 ♖xg7+ 19. ♗xg7 ♘xd2 20. ♖fd1 ♖g8 21. ♔h1 and Black has mate in 8.

Sep-01-06  NateDawg: According to Fritz 9, Black made a big mistake by playing 12...♕h4??. Better is 12...♔d7 However, White failed to capitalize on this error. 13. ♕xh8+ ♔d7 14. ♕xa8 ♕xf2+ 15. ♔d1 d3 16. ♗xd3 ♘xd3 17. ♕xb7 ♕xg2 18. ♔c2! ♕xh1 19. ♕b5+ ♔d8 20. ♔xd3 ♘c5+ ♔c3 (+3.79). After White played 13. 0-0?, Black should simply have played 13...0-0-0 with a winning position. After 13...d3?! White should play 14. ♕xh8+ ♔e7 15. ♕xa8 dxe2 16. ♗b2 ♘f3+ 17. gxf3 ♘g5 18. ♕c8 ♘xh3+ 19. ♔g2 ♘f4+ 20. ♔g1 ♘h3+ and Black draws by perpetual check. Instead, 14. ♗xd3?? loses to 14...♘f3+! as played in the game.
Sep-03-06  patzer2: For the recent problem solution 15...Qxf2!, the resulting smothered mate is to the kibitzer as gravy smothered chicken fried steak is to a hungry diner.

Neither is particularly difficult to prepare, but both are satisfying.

Aug-16-11  naruto00122: There is nothing wrong with 13.Qxh8+ Kd7 14.Qxa8 Qxf2+ 15.Kd1


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Mar-06-13
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  kevin86: Black would reply to Qxa8 with Ng3# on his 17th move.
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