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John Cochrane vs NN
"If It Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit." (game of the day Nov-30-2008)
Odds game (1832) (unorthodox), London, England
Chess variants (000)  ·  1-0

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Nov-30-08
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  Phony Benoni: I believe the pun is a quotation from Johnny Cochrane, O.J. Simpson's defense attorney in his famous murder trial. Someone else can figure out how it refers to the game.

<Wolfmaster> Qutie right. One should always get the pieces out and see what develops.

Nov-30-08
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  Once: <Phony Benoni> Something to do with the name of the white player, perhaps?

Road crash chess - NN self destructs. Queen or odds or not, this can't have been any fun for black.

Nov-30-08  NewLine: It's a shame this game even happened

Nov-30-08  Prudov: Some games of about same quality found their way into ChessGames.com from the 2008 Olympiad!
Nov-30-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: If it doesn't fit, you better have an aquavit.
Nov-30-08  hedgeh0g: If it doesn't fit, you must be @#!.
Nov-30-08
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  Bishoprick: NN played against some of the strongest players in the world over several centuries, and always, but always, managed to lose. Is that any way for a vampire to spend eternity?
Nov-30-08
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  johnlspouge: < <gazzawhite> wrote: Are there any other queen odds games in the database? >

< <Rubenus> wrote: <gazzawhite> William Norwood Potter vs NN is another one. I don't know how to make a link >

W Potter vs NN, 1870

Nov-30-08  waustad: <Bishoprick>There are actually some wins and draws by NN too. If you look he must be related to Dr. Who with the big question mark earring ;-)
Nov-30-08  Caissanist: There are quite a few queen odds games in the database, mostly from the nineteenth century. Capablance received queen odds in a game played when he was four and won easily: R Iglesias vs Capablanca, 1893
Nov-30-08
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  Zenchess: 2 NN sightings from 2008:

Harikrishna vs NN, 2008
Bacrot vs NN, 2008

It looks like he's taken up Internet chess now.

Nov-30-08  njchess: Ouch! For both the pun, and the game...
Dec-01-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: I judge this to be a beiiliant game by the winner---but the loser is GUILTY of chess malpractice,(not to be confused with the famous writer,Mel Chesspractice,lol)
Dec-01-08  AnalyzeThis: Lasker proved that not having the queen is an advantage. He played an amateur, and every time he didn't have the queen, he won, but whenever the amatuer didn't have the queen, Lasker lost.

:)

Dec-31-08  WhiteRook48: wow. excellent game by Cochrane.
Dec-31-08  Augalv: And terrible game by NN.
Jan-01-09  WhiteRook48: of course NN played horribly
Jan-01-09  WhiteRook48: what a terrible NN game
Jan-03-09  WhiteRook48: funny Cochrane game. What a terrible way of using the queen odds... it would've been even worse if NN got the white pieces
Jan-18-09  WhiteRook48: and also odds of f7 pawn, a8 Rook, d8 Queen, and move. and still loses. I don't think NN would've fallen for that.
Jan-19-09  WhiteRook48: 4. Kf1 would have been disastrous, but 4. Ke2 probably would have been worse.
Feb-03-09  WhiteRook48: on the other hand, Black will never give odds like that
Jun-15-13  siegbert: what is the situation after 12 Rf8? i think its blacks only defensive try. 12 d5 ?? also loses as in the game.
Jun-15-13  thomastonk: John Cochrane was not in London in 1832. In my database of old games, the city is Bombay, and the year is 1841.

From "The Chess Player's Chronicle", vol 1, 1841, p 395: "The following brillant little Game was played by Mr. C------e with a Native of India ; Mr. C. giving his opponent the odds of the Queen."

Can Bombay or the year 1841 be confirmed by other sources?

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<siegbert: after 12 Rf8?> Black has a winning material advantage.

<i think its blacks only defensive try.> Oh, no! There are several moves that cover f6, and others which prevent the check on h6.

<12 d5 ?? also loses as in the game.> No, 12.. d5 is a very good move: 13.♘xf6 ♔f7 and White is completely lost.

Jun-16-13  siegbert: yes u were right. d5 covers f7 . the white king has f7. TOOK ME AGES TO SEE THIS. well spotted.
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