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|Nov-30-08|| ||Phony Benoni: I believe the pun is a quotation from Johnny Cochrane, O.J. Simpson's defense attorney in his famous murder trial. Someone else can figure out how it refers to the game.|
<Wolfmaster> Qutie right. One should always get the pieces out and see what develops.
|Nov-30-08|| ||Once: <Phony Benoni> Something to do with the name of the white player, perhaps?|
Road crash chess - NN self destructs. Queen or odds or not, this can't have been any fun for black.
|Nov-30-08|| ||NewLine: It's a shame this game even happened
|Nov-30-08|| ||Prudov: Some games of about same quality found their way into ChessGames.com from the 2008 Olympiad!|
|Nov-30-08|| ||whiteshark: If it doesn't fit, you better have an aquavit.|
|Nov-30-08|| ||hedgeh0g: If it doesn't fit, you must be @#!¤.|
|Nov-30-08|| ||Bishoprick: NN played against some of the strongest players in the world over several centuries, and always, but always, managed to lose. Is that any way for a vampire to spend eternity?|
|Nov-30-08|| ||johnlspouge: < <gazzawhite> wrote: Are there any other queen odds games in the database? >|
< <Rubenus> wrote: <gazzawhite> William Norwood Potter vs NN is another one. I don't know how to make a link >
W Potter vs NN, 1870
|Nov-30-08|| ||waustad: <Bishoprick>There are actually some wins and draws by NN too. If you look he must be related to Dr. Who with the big question mark earring ;-)|
|Nov-30-08|| ||Caissanist: There are quite a few queen odds games in the database, mostly from the nineteenth century. Capablance received queen odds in a game played when he was four and won easily: R Iglesias vs Capablanca, 1893|
|Nov-30-08|| ||Zenchess: 2 NN sightings from 2008:
Harikrishna vs NN, 2008
Bacrot vs NN, 2008
It looks like he's taken up Internet chess now.
|Nov-30-08|| ||njchess: Ouch! For both the pun, and the game...|
|Dec-01-08|| ||kevin86: I judge this to be a beiiliant game by the winner---but the loser is GUILTY of chess malpractice,(not to be confused with the famous writer,Mel Chesspractice,lol)|
|Dec-01-08|| ||AnalyzeThis: Lasker proved that not having the queen is an advantage. He played an amateur, and every time he didn't have the queen, he won, but whenever the amatuer didn't have the queen, Lasker lost.|
|Dec-31-08|| ||WhiteRook48: wow. excellent game by Cochrane.|
|Dec-31-08|| ||Augalv: And terrible game by NN.|
|Jan-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: of course NN played horribly|
|Jan-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: what a terrible NN game|
|Jan-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: funny Cochrane game. What a terrible way of using the queen odds... it would've been even worse if NN got the white pieces|
|Jan-18-09|| ||WhiteRook48: and also odds of f7 pawn, a8 Rook, d8 Queen, and move. and still loses. I don't think NN would've fallen for that.|
|Jan-19-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 4. Kf1 would have been disastrous, but 4. Ke2 probably would have been worse.|
|Feb-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: on the other hand, Black will never give odds like that|
|Jun-15-13|| ||siegbert: what is the situation after 12 Rf8? i think its blacks only defensive try. 12 d5 ?? also loses as in the game.|
|Jun-15-13|| ||thomastonk: John Cochrane was not in London in 1832. In my database of old games, the city is Bombay, and the year is 1841. |
From "The Chess Player's Chronicle", vol 1, 1841, p 395: "The following brillant little Game was played by Mr. C------e with a Native of India ; Mr. C. giving his opponent the odds of the Queen."
Can Bombay or the year 1841 be confirmed by other sources?
<siegbert: after 12 Rf8?> Black has a winning material advantage.
<i think its blacks only defensive try.> Oh, no! There are several moves that cover f6, and others which prevent the check on h6.
<12 d5 ?? also loses as in the game.> No, 12.. d5 is a very good move: 13.♘xf6 ♔f7 and White is completely lost.
|Jun-16-13|| ||siegbert: yes u were right. d5 covers f7 . the white king has f7. TOOK ME AGES TO SEE THIS. well spotted.|
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