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Siegbert Tarrasch vs Kolb
Nurnberg (1894) (unorthodox)
Chess variants (000)  ·  1-0

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Apr-08-14  YetAnotherAmateur: This was fun: Nb6+ jumped out for the double-check. That gives black only 2 possible moves:

27. ... Kd8 28. Qd7#

27. ... Kb8 28. Qc8+ Rxc8 29. Nd7#

Personally, I find the second one quite pretty, since it combines double check with a smothered mate.

Apr-08-14  Rama: Not only that but it is an "Epaulette Mate" with the black King flanked by both its Rooks. Esthetically very pleasing.
Apr-08-14
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  Domdaniel: <Once> -- < Waddya mean he can't re-enact a scene from a film which would not be shot or released for exactly another 100 years?> I think it's called *pre-enactment*...
Apr-08-14  john barleycorn: <domdaniel> we got it.
Apr-08-14
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  kevin86: A smothered mate: the queen is attacked- not to worry, the knight check is a DOUBLE CHECK. Also, backtrack two moves and you find a necessary intermezzo: the black knight must be moved before the sequence as it guards the crucial e7.
Apr-08-14  skeptic50: Kolb was a class C player as Black, but a Grandmaster as White (he just never got to play with the White pieces)
Apr-08-14  BOSTER: < Once: Tarrasch has a sense of humour>. I dont know this, but < CG > no doubt has.

In the opening Tarrasch did not have the knight on b1, but POTD has two knights , and knight b1 looks very attractive.

Apr-08-14  Makavelli II: It also works taking the rook on f8 first but it takes a move longer to the mate. Still very easy I thought :)
Apr-08-14  MountainMatt: Ya know, I would just take the queen, and be perfectly happy.
Apr-08-14
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  Sally Simpson: Obviously the lot of you are wrong and have clearly not studied the position given on the home page which is this:


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Note the White Knight on b1.

In the above game Tarrasch give Queen Knight Odds but with the Knight on b1 they cannot be referring to this game. It's a totally different game.

You got the smothered mate bit right but the game is clearly Blower - Thermal, Grimsby, 1836 which went with Black to play from here.


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1... Nb4 2. Nh7

Intending to answer 2...Nxh7 with 3.Qh5+ (it's an old Morphy psuedo-sac trick played before Morphy was born. ) But...

Nxa2 Checkmate


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So all you pasty-faced Charlie's that think you have 2/2 for this week have infact got only one right out of two. Pay attention and read the board before you start posting your solutions. This is a 100% fail.

Apr-08-14  Nullifidian: 27. ♘b6++ ♔b8 (♔d8 28. ♕d7#) 28. ♕c8+ ♖xc8 29. ♘d7#
Apr-08-14
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  chrisowen: The stage is set b6 snuff for one at b6 l0 wins

shim out have feint all edge too eddy a weave in dig as flight to each as sensed for dug if I've got this correct rudder d7 comes off after a series of mistakes as first g6 line a gob stopper gurgle down

queen g6 dank and dusty one stuck in a quagmire free b6 cascadence would have been kings port of call racing back in c8 to outstrip the pawns e6 advance even further fast e6 glib ogle inch effect a churlish am see monarch c8 back bones g6 black as bar coiffure mate in five shaped up on c6 knight off as came light time ride a g6 queen go etc he of a fashion to plum erge I shall demon-strate forth c6 right a nights hell for leather bind to steer g6 in head e7+ light ramble give a lamb c6 too press g6 one mistake too er g6 dilemma in exact your price b6 aint a batter d7 kind far caller skin palm see ones b8 driven on harried for better kind frame a small g6 error a fog as c6 think cuffed black knights a fat chance in player gap hoist a g6 er slumber c8 in would pine knight d7 the motherload in eg good crack as air b6 and d7 alive to er the threat in stride c8 mate in d7 one b6 as knees up choice d7 meter in ar good jangle too duffed him up pet g6 slumber ship thin a ground b8 slipshod delve good addendum queen e6 in c8 able whirred to de throne b8 monarch brevity a be overcome chain guffaw ma ail in koinus agreed e7 wins accents on black to worm and wiggle a mind g6 out of the equation then to add insult to injury vindicate,

black as compounds his woes to boot ie down a c6 at chin elevate c8 across again would do the trick as pair cooked change see king c8 it book in line low cleft e6 becomes available for pawn and knight d8 really had to get out of the line of fire sure bet c8 a much effective link a c6 foot a cutter goofed as good I shuffle check off rough calf strained at the leash am pocket rocket knight should stay put

kind of got charge and rush of blood to the head b6

Apr-08-14  morfishine: <Sally Simpson> Qh5+ is not possible
Apr-08-14
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  Sally Simpson: Glad to see you are paying attention morfishine - you can make your score for this week two out of two.

ChrisOwen.

"...back to where we started c8 lines escalated climb spark our uniform knight appraisal to bomb."

That is correct - you too are on two out of two.

Apr-08-14  stabguy: Wouldn't 28. Nf6+ work just as well?
Apr-08-14  StevieB: <stabguy> Yes, I believe it would.
Apr-08-14
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  Sally Simpson: Both wrong.


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28.Nf6+ is illegal.

You two are on nil out of two for the week because you are both ultra clumsy.

(if you used diagrams like I do you would not be making these boy scout errors.....just decided you two are -1 for the week for not using a diagram.)

Apr-08-14
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  Domdaniel: <Sally S> Heh, very cute. But, um, how did white manage to play 16.0-0-0 without moving the Nb1?
Apr-08-14
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  WannaBe: New FiisherRamdum [sic] rule.
Apr-08-14  BOSTER: < Sally> isn't this sound from Tal' imagination.

<Note the White Knight on b1.> I saw it.
Home page referring to game
Tartasch vs Kobl, and only Tarrasch with own
< stalemating style> is known as author of the <Most Sadistic mate in history>.

Apr-08-14
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Domdaniel:

The Knight hopped out a3 to allow 0-0-0 and back to b1 after 0-0-0.

It was the way they did things back in the 1800's

J Noa vs Bird, 1882

There you will see White playing:

13. Na3
14. O-O-O
17. Nb1

Apr-08-14
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  perfidious: Pity that, with or without that wayward knight at b1, the aesthetic effect of the finish is spoilt by the fact that Tarrasch had more than one way home.
Apr-08-14  kramputz: You < chrisowen > blab-blab- la too much for nothing.
Apr-08-14
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  chrisowen: <Sally Simpson> Thanks for applying a grade to my posts top notch stuff!
Apr-09-14  LIFE Master AJ: I would play 27.NxR/f8; winning lots of material ... (note, it is an easy win on material).

;)

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