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Baron Tassilo von Heydebrand und der Lasa vs Ludwig Bledow
Berlin m2 (1837), Berlin GER
Scotch Game: Scotch Gambit. Saratt Variation (C44)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Nov-25-05  hesyrett: The play from move 11 on looks pretty weak by modern standards. White could have played simply 12. f4 Bg5 (or 12... Ng5 13. f5 gxf5 14. gxf5 O-O winning a piece) 13. Qf2 and Black is embarrassed. But instead of 11... Ne5, consolidation with 11... Kg7 followed by ... Rf8 should give Black a decent game.
Feb-28-08  parmetd: white was pretty dead at move 11. I'd guess both these players were C standard if I was forced to judge from this game alone.
Feb-28-08  crwynn: Obviously Black played some pretty weak chess, but why pick on White here? Aside from an ugly choice of opening, his only real mistake looks like 25.Bf4 when 25.Re1! wins immediately because 25...Qe1 26.Bf4 (*now*) Kf6 27.Bd2 is check.

It was a pretty serious mistake because suddenly the piece-up ending is very difficult, maybe not possible, to win. Anyhow it was understandable; he played normal attacking moves to draw Black's king out in the open, to a point where his intuition must have said there is a killing blow, and suddenly he couldn't find it. I suppose a modern grandmaster would be more practical and just play 22.Nd2 consolidating the extra piece (or just find 25.Re1!), but he hardly played this like a C-player.

Meanwhile his opening play was not so awful, he was certainly not "dead" on move 11, Black's lead in development does not actually let him do anything really fun, and 12.f4 Bc4 was a little bit risky so 12.b3 made a lot of sense.

Feb-28-08  crwynn: I should add a couple tactical points: on move 25 White had to go in for *some* kind of blow because suddenly 25...Bd5 is threatened, also if 22.Nd2 (!), then 22...Rab8 23.Qc6 Rhc8 24.Qd6 is over, while 22...Qf4? (an ugly move even if it didn't trap the queen) 23.Nf3 Rab8 24.Bf4 Rb7 25.Bd6 and over.
Feb-29-08  parmetd: move 12 b3?
Nd2 or f4
12... c5? Qf6!
14... Qh4+? Qd7
15 Kf1>g3 Safer.
17... Bh5? Perhaps a better try is Qxe4
20 Be6? Bc8. It seems strange to be undeveloping a piece but when you see white hasn't even started development this is a better option than dropping a pawn and allowing queen invasion.

22 e5+?? Nd2!
22... Kf5?? dxe5
23... Qf3? Nd2
25 Bf4+? Re1+ to be followed by Kd6 Bf4+ or Qxe1+ Bf4+ Kf6 Bg3+ losing the Queen 38 Nc4??

So yes on top of the horrible opening choice I maintain if you judge by this games weak moves on both sides these players would be 1500s.

Mar-02-08  crwynn: You give question marks but not analysis. If you want to suggest that these people were patzers you need more than derisive punctuation if anyone is to care. Your suggestion of 12.Nd2 is possibly better, controlling c4 without moving a pawn. But then it's stuck there for awhile, keeping the bishop locked in, unless you play b3 anyhow. 12.f4 is risky because of 12...Bc4 like I said. But 12.b3 isn't so bad; 12...Qf6 13.Bb2 forces 13...c5 anyway so I am not sure that is a big improvement, 14.Nd2 and White is still okay. As for 15.Kf1, 15...Rhf8 is dangerous for White.

Your suggestion 17...Qe4 is indeed a big improvement, in fact it seems to draw by force because of 18.hg Ng5! 19.fg Qh1 and White probably has to give a perpetual.

22.e5 is also a mistake, but it is not so surprising that both players failed to realize White does not benefit from removing the central pawns. A position like that with the king on the 4th rank is pretty crazy and even strong players can make errors of judgment.

Then two question marks for 38.Nc4 is a bit much; yes, 38.Rf3 Kg4 39.Rf2 Re1 40.Kg2 allows White to poke around a little, but it may still be a draw, I don't know, it's not easy to keep q-side pawns on the board and it will require a little finesse to restrain Black's g- and h- pawns.

1500's don't play chess like this; if I play a 1500 I am a little stunned if I don't win (in a serious game that is), if I played either of these fellows I would not be so confident (although I think I could do all right at least against Bledow).

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