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Vladimir Kramnik vs Peter Svidler
Dortmund Sparkassen 2005 (2005), Dortmund GER, rd 1, Jul-08
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation. Modern Line (B44)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-08-05  Boomie: The game might continue:

25...♖xc1 26. ♗xc1 ♘xd5 27. ♗d3 ♕c7 28. ♕d2 ♘xb4 29. ♕xb4 ♗d5

And there's not much left in the position.

Jul-09-05  Illogic: Bring on the jokes about how Kramnik is 'in form'! Actually it is Svidler who is quite the drawmeister lately
Jul-09-05  notyetagm: Kramnik is <not> in form. If he was in good form, he would have drawn before move 20.
Jul-09-05  Catfriend: <Dionyseus> M-Tel? No.. What it proved was the opposite - draws were abundant even with the no-draw rule! Adams-Hydta match with all the already-mentioned advantages for Hydra (doesn't tire, can't possibly get into time trouble etc.) is irrelevant. It's another sphere, practice shows that among GMs (not among almost-perfect Hydras) such positions <do> end in draw, mostly.
Jul-09-05  Montreal1666: <Dionyseus> is right. M-Tel proved that all of these games should be played till the end. It proved that even Super GM's can blunder under pressure. That is what they try to avoid in agreeing on short draws.

This game proves that Kramnik has not regained his confidence yet. He was just happy with a draw. All the other players with white pieces knew that they had to take advantage of the extra game as white.

Jul-09-05  Catfriend: <Montreal> M-Tel proved that when you exhaust top players, you have more blunders and <<still>> have 60% of draws! All these short draws lead most of the time to just a longer draw, unless it's the end of the tournament and the players are so tired they make awful blunders. Is this how you want chess to be? The Bulgarian tourney just showed that if you want more decisive games, you must significantly lower the playing level. And even then, most games will be likely to be drawn! Look at M-Tel masters score: everybody kept talking about so much more decisive games, but in the first half almost every game was drawn! When did they win? In the end, due to much worse chess displayed. In your opinion, that's an indication that these short games must be played till the end - gaining almost no more decisive games and just worsening the games?!
Jul-09-05  Catfriend: As an exlanation: here are the rounds where victories were achieved, in M-Tel:


I think it proves clearly my statement that decisive games were mainly due to exhaustion and blundering in the end.

Jul-09-05  PinkPanther: Exhaustion...hmm....
Jul-09-05  TheAuk: Svidler is Kramnik's former second, so he should know how to scrape an opening draw pretty well. Also, Kramnik is not exactly a monster vs. the Sicillian, so this result is hardly surprising.
Jul-09-05  Catfriend: <PP> Exhaustion, yes. That's the word used to describe the feeling of GMS after a very long and gruelling tournament where they even didn't have the right to draw obviously drawn positions. Otherwise, how would you explain that there were twice more victories in the second half than in the first one? And they were full of imprecise play and blunders, by almost everybody? Yes, exhaustion.
Jul-09-05  AdrianP: Nice to see Vlad's come out fighting.
Jul-09-05  Hesam7: Sofia rules: IMO they are not bad but one should use them with more rest days. One rest day for 10 rounds is simply not enough, 3 rest days [after round 3, after round 6 and after round 9 for example] would be much better.
Jul-09-05  stinky2: Kramnik is clearly struggling against Sicilian, I wonder when will he go back to 1.d4/1.Nf3... Leko ignored it and played Ruy/Caro-Kann, but my guess Kramnik's next opponent in a match won't be so foolish.
Jul-09-05  Montreal1666: Yes. This is becomming a joke now. He should concentrate on reviving his game, enough of experimenting. What is wrong with playing his original game of 1)d4 and 1) Nf3?
Jul-09-05  azaris: Let's not forget Kramnik vs Svidler, 2005. Anyway, Kramnik was playing against his second, it's hardly likely he would have been able to play anything that would have surprised Svidler.
Jul-09-05  Orbitkind: The boring drawing duo strike again. Does anyone know why Svidler was invited to the Argentina tournament? I was disappointed when I saw his name in the list because I think it'll make the games more boring on average.
Jul-09-05  Strategic Joker: Just so you know this guys are friends , i dont think they even intended to battle it out , maybe the game was pre arrenged , i dont think it has anything to do with Kramnik drawing and atleast he didnt losse
Jul-09-05  mymt: <Montreal1666> Kramnik had his 1st move made for him by Uwe Samulewicz
Jul-09-05  PinkPanther: <Catfriend>
It didn't seem to have such an adverse effect on everybody, otherwise both sides would have been blundering due to this "exhaustion" and nobody would have been able to capitalize. Plus, if the positons were so obviously drawn it shouldn't have taken much effort on the part of the GM's to turn them into just that, a draw.
Jul-10-05  Catfriend: <PP> Look, for example, on Kramnik-Topalov, round 10. Both players played horribly, Kramnik had a won position despite bad play (which means Topalov played even worse) and managed to lose, playing one of the worst moves in super-tournament history. Of course, Kramnik experienced a very bad tourney, but his opponents didn't play so much better either. And of course, there will always be somebody who's less tired! And I think it's more than obvious that tiredness affected the results when you look at the rounds where victories were achieved once again.
Jul-10-05  percyblakeney: I think Kramnik's claims that "this is not chess" (because of the tough schedule) were slightly exaggerated. He said that chess could not "retain its worthy level" with tournaments like Sofia, but many other tournaments have had a similar or tougher schedule with longer games (like the Russian Women's Superfinal that was played at the same time). I agree that more rest days is a good thing, though, and that Kramnik-Topalov wasn't the best game of Sofia...
Jul-10-05  Catfriend: And several other decisive games weren't, also. That's the point I'm making - in such schedule, there is a high chance (perhaps,as you noted, not 100%) that <all> players will play worse. And that's what pretty much happened in Sofia, the last rounds were of the lowest average level I can think of in a tournament of such magnitude, of late.
Sep-02-05  Cochrane: <notyetagm: Kramnik is <not> in form. If he was in good form, he would have drawn before move 20>

you said it!!!!

Sep-02-05  Cochrane: Kramnik used to make draws at 8 moves, at least he makes them now at 20!!!!
Oct-02-05  Athenea: Kramnik is <not> in form. If he was in good form, he would have drawn before move 20.
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