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Veselin Topalov vs Peter Svidler
Dortmund Sparkassen 2005 (2005), Dortmund GER, rd 6, Jul-14
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation (B46)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jul-15-05  pantlko: again a very good fighting draw!!!!!
Jul-15-05  PivotalAnorak: Why not 11... ♗xe5 ?
Jul-15-05  howardtheduck: < PivotalAnorak >
I'M try to find out why but i can't see for now...
That a3 f8 diag does not seem that important to me...
Jul-15-05  PivotalAnorak: <howard> Maybe 12.Qh5. Defends h2, attacks the Be5 and pins the f7 pawn. So probably 11... Bxe5 12.Qh5 Bxc3 (if B moves elsewhere then Rxe6+) 13. bxc3 (13.Rxe6+? Kf8! ), and maybe both players considered the dark squares in Black's camp to be weak.
Jul-15-05  FinKing: Maybe: 11...Bxe5? 12.Bf5! and now if 12...exf5 13.Bf4 f6(13...Bd6? 14.Rxe6) 14.Bxe5 Qxf5 and look at the poor guy on e8. And if 12...Bd6 13.Bxe6 fxe6 14.Rxe6+ (14...Kd7(?) 15.Qxf7+ Ne7 16.Bg5 Raf8 (16...Rhf8? 17.Rxe7 Bxe7 18.Qxe7 Kc8 19.Qxf8 and so on.)17.Rxe7 Bxe7 18.Qxe7 and something like Re1.)14...Ne7 15.Qe3 and Re1 with good play, I thinkn?! I´ve analysed this quickly, without a board, in my head, so there can be mistakes.
Jul-15-05  PivotalAnorak: <FinKing> 11...Bxe5 12.Bf5 Nf6, I don't see compensation for the lost pawn, besides Black threatens Bxh2+
Jul-16-05  pantlko: yes .....very intresting question ....may be v can invite some experts to analize the position ...
Jul-16-05  John71: Bxe5....12Rxe5....followed by white a good game
Jul-16-05  FinKing: 11...Bxe5 12.Rxe5 Qxe5 13.Bf4 Qf6 and I do not see any compensation for material. I am omly 13 so I can be mistaken.
Jul-16-05  FinKing: <PivotalAnorak> The idea of 12.Bf5 is to sacrifice a bishop on e6 and at somepoint to take pawn on e6 with rook and play Bg5 and rook on a1 to d1 or e1. I don´t know is it correct ,but it just came up.
Jul-16-05  mymt: <FinKing> After the exchanges Whites pieces are more "active" & Blacks only really "active" piece is gone - eg.14.Qg3 0-0-0 15.Bg5 or 14. ...Ne7 15.Bg5
Jul-17-05  Boomie: <FinKing> Your idea of ♗f5 after 11...♗xe5 is very creative and interesting. But it doesn't seem to work. ♕h5 is probably white's best there. Black can find himself in a losing position with one false step.

11... ♗xe5 12. ♕h5

(12. ♗f5 ♗xh2+ 13. ♔h1 ♗d6 14. ♕g4 ♔f8 15. ♗d3 -2.24/12)


(12... ♗xc3 13. bxc3 ♕e7 14. ♕g4 ♔f8 15. ♕g3 ♘f6 16. ♖b1 h5 17. h4 ♖d8 18. ♗f4 ♘e8 1.21/13)

13. ♖xe6+ ♘e7 14. ♖e1 h6 15. ♗g5 ♗c8 16. ♗e3 ♖b8 17. a3 O-O 0.30/13

Jul-17-05  PivotalAnorak: <Boomie> Thanks for the lines. Interestingly, the line I had briefly looked at (without a board), namely 11... Bxe5 12.Qh5 Bxc3 13.bxc3 Nf6, fails to 14.Rxe6+ followed (after Kf8 or Kd8) by Rxf6, with nasty White threats. So indeed Black seems to have to give the pawn back immediately with 12...Bd6.

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