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|Jan-21-09|| ||WhiteRook48: wow, I thought White was going to WIN! But then...
"Game Score: 0-1"
White blew this?!
|Oct-25-09|| ||AuN1: incredible tenacity on the part of bologna|
|Mar-25-10|| ||JointheArmy: I remember this game. GM Alex Finkel was commentating on WCN, wanting to go to sleep (he lives in Israel) and was frustrated Bologan wouldn't resign. When the engines started to go in Bologan's favor, the entire broadcast room went crazy.|
Good memories. That was back when I really loved chess.
|Jun-12-12|| ||sevenseaman: Black's sheer doggedness corners a fighting White. Many points of varying levels of engagement.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||xthred: Crazy!|
|Jun-12-12|| ||FSR: A great swindle. But it's not so easy for two queens, oddly enough. After winning Karpov vs Korchnoi, 1994 (where he had QRB against Karpov's two queens), Korchnoi made some comment about the board being too small for two queens. Larry Kaufman stated (the transcription here looks a little garbled, but you get the idea):|
<One situation too rare to test the addition of an extra pair of queens to situations involving an imbalance of queen vs. lesser pieces. GM Victor Korchnoi has said that the extra queens are very bad for the side with two queens because two queens are redundant.> http://home.comcast.net/~danheisman...
|Jun-12-12|| ||Honza Cervenka: Two Queens were not enough to save the day for white in Anderssen vs G Neumann, 1866 as well, though there he was due to opponent's attack lost all the time, and the phase with three Queens on the chessboard was relatively short.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||PhilFeeley: This is one of my favourite games of all time! It's one of the first games I got to see live on the internet. The loss with two queens is spectacular.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: GG
|Jun-12-12|| ||goodevans: <aazqua: What an incredible screwup by Shabalov.>|
Maybe the biggest screw up was resigning when he did (unless he lost on time, that is). He should have played 77.Kg1 and forced black to find the win. I, for one, can't see it!
|Jun-12-12|| ||chancho: How about: 77.Kg1 Qb1+ 78.Kf2 Ne4+|
|Jun-12-12|| ||Honza Cervenka: <chancho: How about: 77.Kg1 Qb1+ 78.Kf2 Ne4+> After 79.Ke3 Nxb3 80.Qg3+ I see no way for black how to escape from checks by last surviving Queen of white. But 78...Qxb6+ 79.Ke2 Bc4+! 80.Qxc4 Qb2+ and 81...Qxh2 the ending should be won for black, though there can still be some technical problems ahead.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||JohnBoy: <Honza, cancho> - how about 77.Kg1 Nf3+ and|
78.Qxf3 Qxh2+ 79.Kxh2 Bxf3
78.Kf1 Nxh2+ 79.Ke1 Nf3+ 80.Kf1 (not 80.Kd1 Qd2+) Qb1+ and black either corrals the white king or forces the queens off...
I believe resignation was in order.
|Jun-12-12|| ||Honza Cervenka: <JohnBoy: <Honza, cancho> - how about 77.Kg1 Nf3+ and|
78.Qxf3 Qxh2+ 79.Kxh2 Bxf3>
This leads only to draw after 80.Kg3. Unfortunately, black is unable to attack Pf5 and block Pb6 at once in this ending.
|Jun-12-12|| ||kevin86: Take my wife,please!-Henny Youngman.
Take my queens please-Alexander Shabalov.
|Jun-12-12|| ||hellopolgar: 49. b8Q is really an obvious move that white somehow missed.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||playground player: If White had only gotten that third queen!|
|Jun-12-12|| ||goodevans: <chancho: How about: 77.Kg1 Qb1+ 78.Kf2 Ne4+>|
As <Honza> says this is probably a draw, but in any case the exact same position was available on move 76 for black to play <...Ne4+>.
Why resign a position based on your opponent maybe playing a move that he's already missed the first time it was available to him. Makes no sense.
|Jun-12-12|| ||maxi: Looking at this game and others quoted here one gets the impression that two Queens don't complement each other too well, when playing against Queen and two pieces.|
|Jun-12-12|| ||zakkzheng: Thought white should have won|
|Jun-12-12|| ||OBIT: For another fascinating example of how two queens often don't work well together, there is
Franz vs Mayet, 1858. In this game, White has two queens to his opponent's two rooks and two minor pieces, plus he has the Black king is in the center of the board, yet White is unable to engineer even a perpetual check. Playing through the game, you can sense White's dilemma: Black is able to find good squares for his four pieces, and, because White's queens are too valuable to trade, he can do nothing to break down Black's fortress. |
As these games show, an army consisting of only queens and pawns isn't very effective. You need those middle-strength pieces to work trades when you need them.
|Jun-27-12|| ||SuperPatzer77: White resigns and see diagram below:
click for larger view
77. ♔g1 ♕b1+, 78. ♔f2 ♕xb6+!!, 79. ♕e3 ♘e4+!, 80. ♔e2 ♕b2+, 81. ♔d3 ♕xh2, 82. ♕a7+ ♔g8!, 83. ♕e3 ▢ ♕b2! (forcing mate or White loses the last queen)
|Jun-27-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Sometimes I wonder why "they" say chessplayers need to be in good physical condition to play their best. I mean, you're sitting down and hardly moving.|
Then I see a game like this, and realize a person without physical or mental stamina would collapse in the complications past move 40.
|Nov-21-17|| ||PhilFeeley: As I recall, when this game finished, the spectators broke out in spontaneous applaus. All that was missing were the gold pieces!|
|Feb-27-18|| ||morfishine: Certainly, engines will find a simple, effective solution for White that unfortunatley, Shaba could not find :(|
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